Will Unichip support my mods?

[HeHateMe]

I have looked around on the Forum, and some have said that the unichip is great for stock/light modded cars. Will my mods be too much for the unichip to make that big of a difference?

[kicker22705]

you'll be fine, if anything you'll mods will make the gains greater.

generally people w/ upgraded fuel, turbo, internals are the people unichip isn't ideal for b/c that is when unichip needs to be remapped. it's not like unichip can't handle those heavy mods either, just need to find a authorized dealer who can which can be tough.

[ChopstickHero]

yes, the maps that it comes with has a certain amount of leeway in its tuning that it will accomodate. however, to maximize the potential of the unichip, it should be custom tuned to your mods.

[HeHateMe]

Let me guess, only Unichip can tune it for my mods (jerkit)

[ChopstickHero]

Let me guess, only Unichip can tune it for my mods (jerkit)

yeah, that's the downside to it! i'm planning on getting a unichip soon... and i found a unichip tuner about 20 mins from me. :)

[HeHateMe]

Are you getting a deal on the Unichip? Also i wonder how much it costs to have it fine tuned.

[ONRAILS]

Ben (horsepowerfreaks) has a deal for $780 right now. I also have a Unichip authorized dealer about 20min away and he quoted me about $300 to fine tune it. That includes dyno time.




Are you getting a deal on the Unichip? Also i wonder how much it costs to have it fine tuned.

[UnNaturalinc]

Let me guess, only Unichip can tune it for my mods (jerkit)

Most people who modify cars do not have the knowledge to tune an EMS.


There's tons if info on these units on this board by the way...



*I'm still getting 25/27mpg @ 250+ horsepower (crank) with Unichip.

[HeHateMe]

I will be ready to buy one, after i pay off the FMIC. Untill then i will continue to fine tune my car. By the way will the unichip fix the stalling issues, without having to relocate the Maf?

[nvmsp]

i doubt it.

[TX Speed Demon]

I rode in JDM Sam's car with the unichip installed, you'll definately notice a performance gain. I'll be getting one in a few months when the money's ready.

[ChopstickHero]

vodas is selling the unichip for $650 .. but i think he is located in hawaii, so shipping will add extra cost to that. i am interested in a unichip that is local to me here.

i found a local unichip tuner through the Unichip website.

SNS MOTORWORKS
141 W. Foothill Bvld
Pomona, California 91750
909-392-8402
bobsaghafi@msn.com
http://www.snsmotorworks.com/

I emailed them and they quoted me $130/hr for dyno and tune. so i am assuming it takes roughly 2-3 hrs to tune the car.

[fastasmsp]

if u dont have someone to tune it dont buy it. I have it and it was great but i hit its limits and i have no one to tune it.

[CasopoliS]

300 for a tune is a good deal and probably worth it. Unichip is plug and play, so probably the easiest to install.

[Paul]

if u dont have someone to tune it dont buy it. I have it and it was great but i hit its limits and i have no one to tune it.
more info?
i have my unichip on order. what mods do u have that makes it hit it's limits?

[fastasmsp]

more info?
i have my unichip on order. what mods do u have that makes it hit it's limits?
15lbs of boost and i need to tune for more fuel and bigger fuel injectors

[Paul]

stock rods?

[UnNaturalinc]

if u dont have someone to tune it dont buy it. I have it and it was great but i hit its limits and i have no one to tune it.


15lbs of boost and i need to tune for more fuel and bigger fuel injectors.

This is not a matter of 'not supporting your mods'... It's a matter of the stock/default/standard maps not being tuned/set to do that. What you are planning on doing is beyond the realm of what most Unichip users want. It will be

The current maps were designed around stock injectors. There has been some, but not a whole lot of interest in new maps for bigger injectors. This is something that I was hoping to have done by now however. Once I'm able to produce the bigger injector fuel maps with Unichip US people will be able to send their box to them directly to get upgraded.

TorqueFreaks, the service department next door to me here is suppose to be getting the software to tune Unichip. So I might be working with them to offer new maps.

[HeHateMe]

But the Unichip Boost is set a 10psi with a 12psi peak right?

[UnNaturalinc]

But the Unichip Boost is set a 10psi with a 12psi peak right?

The boost goes to 12psi in the mid range then back down to 10psi in the top end where there's not as much fuel available.

[cosmo420]

vodas is selling the unichip for $650 .. but i think he is located in hawaii, so shipping will add extra cost to that. i am interested in a unichip that is local to me here.

i found a local unichip tuner through the Unichip website.

SNS MOTORWORKS
141 W. Foothill Bvld
Pomona, California 91750
909-392-8402
bobsaghafi@msn.com
http://www.snsmotorworks.com/

I emailed them and they quoted me $130/hr for dyno and tune. so i am assuming it takes roughly 2-3 hrs to tune the car.
flat rate USPS is only $7.70 in all 50 states and I beleive it would fit into the flate rate box, there are 2 sizes

[ChopstickHero]

But the Unichip Boost is set a 10psi with a 12psi peak right?

Right. but remember that 10psi on an engine with no additional timing or a/f control (just a boost controller and stock ECU) for extended length of time is risky. http://www.msprotege.com/vbb225/images/smilies/help%21.gif

On the other hand, an engine at 10psi with full timing and a/f control is definitely alot safer. (rockon)

[fastasmsp]

stock rods?
yes stock rods

[nvmsp]

so I guess you just set ur BC at 15psi. What's the difference from 12-10psi from 15-? psi with the chip?

[nvmsp]

There's an STI around here using the same chip and damn is that thing sick.

[fastasmsp]

This is not a matter of 'not supporting your mods'... It's a matter of the stock/default/standard maps not being tuned/set to do that. What you are planning on doing is beyond the realm of what most Unichip users want. It will be

The current maps were designed around stock injectors. There has been some, but not a whole lot of interest in new maps for bigger injectors. This is something that I was hoping to have done by now however. Once I'm able to produce the bigger injector fuel maps with Unichip US people will be able to send their box to them directly to get upgraded.

TorqueFreaks, the service department next door to me here is suppose to be getting the software to tune Unichip. So I might be working with them to offer new maps.
but without tune it those maps are not going to help, because all cars differ in what they need to run right

[fastasmsp]

so I guess you just set ur BC at 15psi. What's the difference from 12-10psi from 15-? psi with the chip?
the bc that came with the unichip made my car run from 9-18 lbs so i am running my own bc and that is the most boost i can run before the car leans out

[nvmsp]

so how is it running?

[fastasmsp]

good but not fast. i to tune it to get any horsepower out of that 15lbs. right now its at 201 FWHP 228 FWTQ

[nvmsp]

so your saying 15psi = not fast?Why? what have you raced and what else do you have done?

[ChopstickHero]

was there something wrong with the Unichip EBC? is that why it was spiking and not holding boost properly?

[fastasmsp]

I tryed me friends and it did the same thing. cars differ to each modd

[Paul]

was there something wrong with the Unichip EBC? is that why it was spiking and not holding boost properly?
the unichip is made to hit 12psi then back down to 10

[ChopstickHero]

the unichip is made to hit 12psi then back down to 10

i know that.

fastasmsp said "the bc that came with the unichip made my car run from 9-18 lbs so i am running my own bc and that is the most boost i can run before the car leans out"

sorry... i should've quoted him.

[Paul]

oh ok, i gotcha.

[ChopstickHero]

oh ok, i gotcha.

did you get your unichip yet?

[fastasmsp]

so your saying 15psi = not fast?Why? what have you raced and what else do you have done?
the car is not tuned for it

[Paul]

the car is not tuned for it
dont worry what it's tuned for your going to blow it soon anyway (freak)

[rocketr2]

I have a stock MSP, and had problems beating my friends 05 Civic SI. Probably mostly due to hesitation. But after installing the Unichip, I can beat him by 2 car lenths.

[fastasmsp]

dont worry what it's tuned for your going to blow it soon anyway (freak)
i have been running it like this for 2 years. u only blow things up when u dont know what u are doing.

[TX Speed Demon]

good but not fast. i to tune it to get any horsepower out of that 15lbs. right now its at 201 FWHP 228 FWTQ

Boy that does seem really low for 15 psi.

Didn't Kwisiti (Joe P) get in the 260s with 18 psi on a mostly stock msp?

And I know a guy here in dallas who got 240WHP at 12 psi with the MPI. And another who got ~185 at 10psi with only exhaust and drop in filter.

Are you in an otherwise stock msp or trowing a cel? Clutch slipping on the dyno? Could just be the tune, but it sounds like something else is also wrong here.

[goku4658]

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[Tito1]

This thread is really making me want the unichip. I'm hoping to get Voda's myself, and i just found a local tuner.

The problem is getting all the supporting mods together. Otherwise I'll be stuck paying quite a bit to get it retuned. This certinly adds to the 'price' of this unit.

How does unichip compare to the new Greddy ultimate emanage system? The Greddy is about half the price, but I'm not totally sure what tuning features it has vs. the unichip. I know it doesn't come pre-mapped like the unichip, but that doesn't seem to matter much, since the unichip needs re tuning anyway.

[txrxs]

Emanage Ultimate won't work until Greddy updates the software to work with the FS engine. This has been tried by daedulus with less than stellar results. Once/if greddy updatest the software then all should be good.

[Tito1]

Oh...so it can't just be tuned from a PC?

[Tito1]

Oh...so it just can't be tuned from scratch using a PC?

[txrxs]

no, because you need to set up a base for the motor, the only options are miata, rx7 and like a couple other mazdas. The old emanage had switches to select the motor type. This just has the software, and the FS isn't included. There's a thread on here about, gives the run down on why it wont work.

[ChopstickHero]

This thread is really making me want the unichip. I'm hoping to get Voda's myself, and i just found a local tuner.

The problem is getting all the supporting mods together. Otherwise I'll be stuck paying quite a bit to get it retuned. This certinly adds to the 'price' of this unit.

How does unichip compare to the new Greddy ultimate emanage system? The Greddy is about half the price, but I'm not totally sure what tuning features it has vs. the unichip. I know it doesn't come pre-mapped like the unichip, but that doesn't seem to matter much, since the unichip needs re tuning anyway.

From talking to people who have the Unichip, it will work very well out of box. A custom tune is only necessary if your mods are exceeding the default tune on the Unichip. You should be fine with the bolt-ons: fmic/smic, hardpipes, intake, exhaust. if you are going internals, extra fuel, bigger intake/exhaust manifold, etc... then a custom tune will be necessary. of course, even getting a custom tune without the big big power mods is good too.... you can tune it to your exact needs and mods, and other factors like the weather conditions you live in.

you can't go as far as comparing it to the greddy emanage ultimate yet, because the greddy emanage ultimate isn't even updated for the FS engine. although the emanage has the advantage of being able to tune it yourself. some people like the convenience of unichips plug n play.

[Tito1]

From talking to people who have the Unichip, it will work very well out of box. A custom tune is only necessary if your mods are exceeding the default tune on the Unichip. You should be fine with the bolt-ons: fmic/smic, hardpipes, intake, exhaust. if you are going internals, extra fuel, bigger intake/exhaust manifold, etc... then a custom tune will be necessary. of course, even getting a custom tune without the big big power mods is good too.... you can tune it to your exact needs and mods, and other factors like the weather conditions you live in.

you can't go as far as comparing it to the greddy emanage ultimate yet, because the greddy emanage ultimate isn't even updated for the FS engine. although the emanage has the advantage of being able to tune it yourself. some people like the convenience of unichips plug n play.

Thanks for the info...all clear now. I wonder if the unichip folks really push for the retuning so they can get some more billing in. Thanks again

[MSdestro]

From talking to people who have the Unichip, it will work very well out of box. A custom tune is only necessary if your mods are exceeding the default tune on the Unichip. You should be fine with the bolt-ons: fmic/smic, hardpipes, intake, exhaust. if you are going internals, extra fuel, bigger intake/exhaust manifold, etc... then a custom tune will be necessary. of course, even getting a custom tune without the big big power mods is good too.... you can tune it to your exact needs and mods, and other factors like the weather conditions you live in.

you can't go as far as comparing it to the greddy emanage ultimate yet, because the greddy emanage ultimate isn't even updated for the FS engine. although the emanage has the advantage of being able to tune it yourself. some people like the convenience of unichips plug n play.

I'm looking into this chip and I really would like to buy it, but I just can't seem to find the answer to this question, is it worth buying on a completly stock MSP??? I feel that you would not be able to enjoy it unless you mod the ride. you can't even boost to 10psi stock or am i wrong...i just figure that spending about $900 on this as your first mod would not benifeit me at all...can someone please let me know what kind of gains I would be looking at with a stock MSP and if I decide to go 10psi without modding yet, will I be regretting it. I'm debating because I have a grand to blow on my car and I want to know if this is should be the mod to go with or should I focus on some other things...thanks in advance...respect.

[UnNaturalinc]

I'm looking into this chip and I really would like to buy it, but I just can't seem to find the answer to this question, is it worth buying on a completly stock MSP??? I feel that you would not be able to enjoy it unless you mod the ride. you can't even boost to 10psi stock or am i wrong...i just figure that spending about $900 on this as your first mod would not benifeit me at all...can someone please let me know what kind of gains I would be looking at with a stock MSP and if I decide to go 10psi without modding yet, will I be regretting it. I'm debating because I have a grand to blow on my car and I want to know if this is should be the mod to go with or should I focus on some other things...thanks in advance...respect.

Yes, it is worth it even on a stock car. It's not made for a car with a significant number of modifications. It was originally built on a bone-stock car, then updated with intake and exhaust installed on the car (just those two parts). This unit has a better bang for the buck ratio than most anything else you can get for the car. Not to mention improves fuel economy! This unit also eliminates the hiccups that some of the MSP's have. I didn't those running issues however.

With my car, we made 250hp with Unichip, intake, and exhaust (this is a crank HP number). 25hp and 5mpg directly from the Unichip if I recall correctly. I've now got a downpipe and will be adding a FMIC shortly. I will dyno again for an updated number. Hopefully we'll get some new maps made also.

If you have any other questions about this product you can message me directly. I don't know how many times I've posted information and corrected things about these units.


*I'm not trying to sound like an infomercial salesmen here. Just expressing my first hand experience with this product over the past two years.

[brealmp3]

what about if i wanted to run it for the MAM street sleeper kit? how do you think it would do? Also when i try to find a tuner near me, here in nc, zip 28163 it doesn't pull up anything. does anyone know where the nearest one may be?

thanks

[ChopstickHero]

I'm looking into this chip and I really would like to buy it, but I just can't seem to find the answer to this question, is it worth buying on a completly stock MSP??? I feel that you would not be able to enjoy it unless you mod the ride. you can't even boost to 10psi stock or am i wrong...i just figure that spending about $900 on this as your first mod would not benifeit me at all...can someone please let me know what kind of gains I would be looking at with a stock MSP and if I decide to go 10psi without modding yet, will I be regretting it. I'm debating because I have a grand to blow on my car and I want to know if this is should be the mod to go with or should I focus on some other things...thanks in advance...respect.

like Horsepowerfreak said, it will be a good addition for your ride, improving power delivery and maximizing it's potential. when you start adding big mods, you may want to consider a custom tune. that way, your unichip can utilize those mods.

[MSdestro]

Yes, it is worth it even on a stock car. It's not made for a car with a significant number of modifications. It was originally built on a bone-stock car, then updated with intake and exhaust installed on the car (just those two parts). This unit has a better bang for the buck ratio than most anything else you can get for the car. Not to mention improves fuel economy! This unit also eliminates the hiccups that some of the MSP's have. I didn't those running issues however.

With my car, we made 250hp with Unichip, intake, and exhaust (this is a crank HP number). 25hp and 5mpg directly from the Unichip if I recall correctly. I've now got a downpipe and will be adding a FMIC shortly. I will dyno again for an updated number. Hopefully we'll get some new maps made also.

If you have any other questions about this product you can message me directly. I don't know how many times I've posted information and corrected things about these units.


*I'm not trying to sound like an infomercial salesmen here. Just expressing my first hand experience with this product over the past two years.

which map were you running when your car was bone stock and what map were you running when you had intake and exhaust???

[UnNaturalinc]

which map were you running when your car was bone stock and what map were you running when you had intake and exhaust???

That doesn't really apply to me.... But I'm not sure what you are really asking though.

The Unichip was built/setup on my vehicle. The first time they had it the car was stock, they just got everything setup and tested how it would run. A month or so later they had the car again and did the more aggressive tuning. The car had intake and exhaust at this time.

The Unichip is setup one way those switches (for the maps) are to de-tune it basically.

[CorkSport]

HorsepowerFreak
The Unichip is setup one way those switches (for the maps) are to de-tune it basically.
Haha that's funny, you detuned your car for how much?
Call me if you want a stock NA manifold so you can go even slower.
















Sorry, that quote sounded funny to me.

[MSdestro]

That doesn't really apply to me.... But I'm not sure what you are really asking though.

The Unichip was built/setup on my vehicle. The first time they had it the car was stock, they just got everything setup and tested how it would run. A month or so later they had the car again and did the more aggressive tuning. The car had intake and exhaust at this time.

The Unichip is setup one way those switches (for the maps) are to de-tune it basically.

should I replace my clutch eventually with this chip???

[UnNaturalinc]

should I replace my clutch eventually with this chip???

I got 15,000 out of my stock clutch. :)

[ChopstickHero]

should I replace my clutch eventually with this chip???

i guess it depends on how much you drop your clutch! if you like dropping your clutch all the time, don't expect it to last long!

[UnNaturalinc]

i guess it depends on how much you drop your clutch! if you like dropping your clutch all the time, don't expect it to last long!

I would say slipping would be worse than dropping it.

[Pirana]

Slipping the clutch is safer for your transaxle than dropping it....from experience...yes you would burn your clutch with time but the clutch is cheaper and a wear part compared to your axles and differentials. (rei)