Ignition??

[BC3I]

has anyone found an ignition system for the 3??? or ANY ignition/electronic performance parts yet?

[goldwing2000]

Somebody installed a capacitive discharge system but that's the only one I've heard of. I think it was a Nology system.

[BC3I]

thanks...oh btw what the hell is that??? LOL

[AzMz3]

has anyone found an ignition system for the 3??? or ANY ignition/electronic performance parts yet?

The stock system will be just fine for highly N/A modded and low boost FI. But by your sig I can see you benefiting form a better ignition system.
Might want to look up MSD ignition, they either have something out or are working on it.

I wouldn't use the Nology, thats like taking a step backwards. But you can.
I would take advantage of the coil on plugs first though.

[MightyMouse]

Our cars use a coil over plug ignition. I REALLY doubt you will find anything better.

[AzMz3]

Our cars use a coil over plug ignition. I REALLY doubt you will find anything better.


For his application their will be something better. Besides there is usually an aftermarket product that is better than a stock set-up.
Stock coil on plug is not the end all of all ignition systems...LOL

[ssinstaller]

I talked to MSD a while back about an ignition. You can use the DIS4 (PN 62152) ignition but you will also need two of thier coil adaptors for the 4.6 liter mustang(PN 89121).

[BC3I]

huh thats weird... thanks for the info

[MightyMouse]

For his application their will be something better. Besides there is usually an aftermarket product that is better than a stock set-up.
Stock coil on plug is not the end all of all ignition systems...LOL

If he can get a HP increase by changing out the factory COP ignition, no matter how modded the engine is, I would REALLY like to see the dyno results.

[AzMz3]

If he can get a HP increase by changing out the factory COP ignition, no matter how modded the engine is, I would REALLY like to see the dyno results.


Im sure he would be doing it to get a hotter spark and not just HP. Look at his mods, the stock components will only do so much.

[BC3I]

yes i'm doing it for both reasons actually....not expecting a whole lotta HP just over all better spark...hotter

[MightyMouse]

yes i'm doing it for both reasons actually....not expecting a whole lotta HP just over all better spark...hotter

TO be perfectly honest, that is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard....

[BC3I]

good for you

[BC3I]

so anyways......i heard that MSD makes a great universal unit that is awesome for turbo applications...anyone know about it?

[goldwing2000]

yes i'm doing it for both reasons actually....not expecting a whole lotta HP just over all better spark...hotter

Ok... so what it the benefit of "hotter spark", if it's not HP? (scratch)

[BC3I]

this is what i saw....

MSD 6BTM, PN 6462
The 6 BTM is ideal for engines with a turbo or supercharger. Not only will the engine benefit from MSD’s full power CD sparks, but there is also an adjustable boost/timing retard circuit to prevent detonation.
When your supercharger (turbo or blower) forces the air/fuel ratio into the engine, the cylinder pressure inside the combustion chamber increases. The result is a great amount of power but this can also lead to detonation which can result in severe engine damage. The 6 BTM lets you dial away detonation by retarding the timing in relation to the boost pressure. By electronically controlling the ignition timing your engine can run on the threshold of detonation to obtain maximum power and efficiency.
The BTM features a dash mounted control knob that lets you adjust the amount of timing retard. It can be adjusted from 0° per pound of boost to 3° per pound. The boost pressure is monitored by a sensor built into the MSD.
The 6 BTM also shares the Soft Touch Rev Control of the 6AL Ignition for overrev protection. The BTM is supplied with rubber shock mounts and rpm modules for 3,000, 6,000, 7,000 and 8,000 rpm.

[ssinstaller]

this is what i saw....

MSD 6BTM, PN 6462
The 6 BTM is ideal for engines with a turbo or supercharger. Not only will the engine benefit from MSD’s full power CD sparks, but there is also an adjustable boost/timing retard circuit to prevent detonation.
When your supercharger (turbo or blower) forces the air/fuel ratio into the engine, the cylinder pressure inside the combustion chamber increases. The result is a great amount of power but this can also lead to detonation which can result in severe engine damage. The 6 BTM lets you dial away detonation by retarding the timing in relation to the boost pressure. By electronically controlling the ignition timing your engine can run on the threshold of detonation to obtain maximum power and efficiency.
The BTM features a dash mounted control knob that lets you adjust the amount of timing retard. It can be adjusted from 0° per pound of boost to 3° per pound. The boost pressure is monitored by a sensor built into the MSD.
The 6 BTM also shares the Soft Touch Rev Control of the 6AL Ignition for overrev protection. The BTM is supplied with rubber shock mounts and rpm modules for 3,000, 6,000, 7,000 and 8,000 rpm.


The mazda 3 does not have a distributor so you can't use that ignition. The only ignition they have that will work on the MZ3 is the DIS-4.

[Dexter]

Stop being a ricer.

[ssinstaller]

Stop being a ricer.

(deadhorse

[BC3I]

i got this email 2day from MSD


"Unfortunately we do not offer an ignition system for your application,
the factory ignition on your application has a transistorized/coil
assembly, and with this type of set up you will not be able to adapt an
aftermarket ignition. If you do try to install it, it will damage the
transistors internally and will not start on factory ignition, plus the
transistor have to remain in place for the factory ignition."

so this sucks... anyone have an idea??

[skullone]

You could add it to your Electric Supercharger
(peep) (silly)

[BC3I]

i don't have an electric supercharger you dumbass......i put the thread up to actually find out how much of a waste it is casue i didn't belive what i heard(stfu)

[TomH]

The MZ3s stock ignition system is fairly overbuilt to start with. You won't need an upgrade unless you plan on turbo/supercharging in the future. Buying a so-called "performance ignition" system for a basically stock vehicle is an absolute extreme waste of money that provides no measureable performance benefits.

[BC3I]

well i am gonna be going the Turbo route....i just wanted to know more for future refference..thanks