Nitrous

[<Linuxninja>]

I Like Razhael below have been bitten by the performance bug. I want to get more power, but am not in the finacial situation to have a custom turbo kit built. I was considering a NOS kit (40-50 shot). The advantage here is that this is on-demand power,and it is cheaper. The on-demand factor is important because it is not always putting wear and tear on the engine. If I go this route I DEFINITELY have to get a better clutch to handle the sudden jolt of power when I pust the ''fun button." Does anyone have any words of advice out there regarding this subject?

[trobbins]

Hey "Game" do you have nothing better to do. We all like our cars, thats why we spend our time talking about it here. Now go back to your Chevy POS and let us be.

Ever wonder why they are discontinuing the Camaro???

Tim

[Razhael]

LOL!!! :D
i never thought of the day i see flamers on other ppls CAR boards, i mean, is normal to see little kiddos fighting with what video game system is better and stuff. But cars? come on...
somebody better ban that game guy, we dont need an idiot who doesnt have enough fun with his crappy ass chevy and still has time to come to this boards and start talking s**t
go and get a life, who cares about your opinions.

[MP3TLH]

Why I bought my MP3 - AND LOVE IT.
This is the first car I bought. I considered price, style, performance, and overall value and I was looking for a small sedan. The MP3 fit all the categories I was looking for, lacking a bit on the horsepower issue. My friend has a new Eclipse and another has a Mustang. Can I beat them in a drag race - NO WAY!, but that's not why I bought it. Sure I will mod my car to make it better.
In 10 years I bet a first year limited edition MP3 will have a better return on investment than a Camero. On the other issues of style and price I couldn't find a better looking car for the price. If YOU care about speed/horsepower/accleration primarily-buy a Camero and enjoy. I, and other MP3 owners I assume, look for a more complete package in a car.

There is more to a car than horsepower!!!!

[Razhael]

:D TWISTIES!!! :D

[<0-60 times>]

Game:
As seen in other threads on this board, you have seen that the 0-60 time for the MP3 is about 8.3 secs. What is for the Camaro?
It' isn't 4.1 secs. I know that. Very few cars in the world can break the 4 second barrier in 0-60.
As for putting nitrous on the MP3. I wouldn't do it. There are better ways to power than using the bottle, you just have to wait a little while for something to come along.

[MP3Ben]

I'm lovin' my MP3, and Game you can't believe why anyone would buy this car? Well they're pretty much all gone now, sellin' like hot cakes. Not everybody is concerned only with straight line acceleration performance. Like my other post in '0-60', I'm just saying we're a bunch of enthusiasts who wanna improve the sweet overall package we got (cornering, sound no stock package can match, and plain old good looks), and that has nothing to do with you and your 5 second Camaro. Yeah, go floor that thing, but watch out for the tight corner up ahead! Missed it? Bye bye! :eek:

And sure the Camaro's got history, but soon it will BE history! :D

Us 'punk kids who know nothing better than to buy a 4 liter 100 hp car' seem to be a plenty, won't you say, grandpa? By the way, get your facts straight before you start posting next time OK? LOL

I don't mean to insult you or your car, but you're on the wrong board. Maybe you were looking for the Camaro page a couple forums over? You love your car, we love ours...you respect us, we respect you. It's that simple. ;)

[trobbins]

Hey Game,
Come meet me in the dead of winter and we'll race. While your Chevy POS is doing donuts I will be down the track. The MP3 will hold its own on the skid pad, and will out do the New Corvette and some ferarri in the slalom. I think you have performance confused with speed, there is a difference. And on top of that, you seem to need to have the urge to going a Mazda MP3 group and tell us how 'wrong' we are. If you don't like it, go away!!!

[MazdaMP]

so why did several car magazines say that it is better in the corners?
by the way, how can you quote?

[LT1 Power]

Originally posted by MazdaMP:
<STRONG>so why did several car magazines say that it is better in the corners?
by the way, how can you quote?</STRONG>

If you look above the post that you want to quote at the end of the line of opions is "" click on that.

[MP3 Beazie]

Performance is not exclusively HP. Consider the amount of money spent and the overall performance of the car. Sure the MP3 doesn't have much HP but in stock form it pulls a .86g on the skid pad. VERY impressive numbers, all for $18,500.

Now let's compare....

02 Corvette Z06.. .93g better but not much, $50,000. I'll pass.
01 SVT Cobra R Mustang .99g, breaking the 1g barrier is a feat. Props the to the Stang, $55,000, again, I'll pass.

We are all here to gather as much information and share out thoughts about the car that we found to be great values, and the same time joined the ranks of a FEW people world wide to own a car like this, when you can say that let's talk.

[<Linuxninja>]

Hey guys,

How about some info on Nitrous, not how fast the Camero is? You can take yourself to the Camero boards. You know who you are. All my MP3 brothas and sistas, much props.

[enry]

lol, good job guys I don't think he'll be coming back after the slamming he got here

[derrick1623]

what the fuck is that guy game's problem?, hea game...if u read thins, step away from your computer...walk out to your camaro...and ride your fast ass car to the store...buy this months carand driver...shut up!

[APEXistud]

OK, let's get back to the Nitrous issue. I would love to throw a "Sneaky Pete" (35-shot). on my car, just for those special Civic SI occasions. But as for the 50-shot, I think you'll be ok. Just don't squeeze all the time. If you do decide to use Nitrous, I suggest you invest in a good ignition system and buy some "coler rated" spark plugs. Goodluck..

[BobboJ]

Hey APEX....I'm lookin into Nitrous also, maybe also a 50 shot.....any Specifics on the ignition or plugs....brands?....Also, anybody know exactlly WHAT Nitrous kit fits our car?.....I need to have it specific before i make ANY purchases....if yall don't wanna post, please E-mail me....this stuff is need-to-know 4 me....thanx ;)

[APEXistud]

There are 2 part number for the NOS kit for our. 1 is for 4 cyl. (1.6-2.0L) Part#05122NOS the other is 2.0-2.4L Part #05123NOS. As for plugs while using nitrous, it's gonna depend on how often you use the Nitrous. You'll want to use a colder rated plug if you squeeze a lot, Denso and NGK both offer plug is different heat ranges. You have a few ignition systems to choose from, MSD being the main one. I wish I had more information for you for you, but I haven't the opportunity to dive deeper into the Nitrous idea. Club Si's Nitrous Junkies (http://forums.clubsi.com/cgi-bin/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&number=13&SUBMIT=Go) forum might be pretty helpful. :) I'm also pretty sure other people on this board know quite a bit about it too.

[StuttersC]

Don't neglect the fuel either. You might need to run a little more gas for that nitrous shot...You don't want to run lean when you use it, that's how nitrous kills motors.

[LinuxRacr]

Originally posted by ChrisS:
<STRONG>Don't neglect the fuel either. You might need to run a little more gas for that nitrous shot...You don't want to run lean when you use it, that's how nitrous kills motors.</STRONG>

Yep, Detonation would be a bitch!!

:eek:

[enry]

How much is a full nos kit starter kit? Complete including the nos canster and the fire extinguisher you might need.

I'm asking because we know a FS-ZE engine is 2 large.

[StuttersC]

<STRONG>I'm asking because we know a FS-ZE engine is 2 large.
</STRONG>

What does that mean??

[jayrcr]

This is for the serious people who want to know about nitrous.Ive been racing cars for a long time. My dad drag raced nitrous feed elimanator cars for 20 years. So you could say its in my blood. From my own experiences ive found nitrous the cheapest and the best way to race. Sure there are many pro"s and con"s about it.Theres alot of options out there like turbo's . And ive only seen one mp3 whith a turbo.Then theres superchargers but when will there be one available.Right now im running nitrous on my mp3 KIT #05115 DRY MANIFOLD KIT. Ok its a mustang kit but they sell it as an import kit.So far its seemed to run good no problems. Im also running a nos fuel pressure regulater at 45psi.My best time at the track so far is 14.3 @93.9 mph.I think thats prety good for stock.And on 17's.Oh ya I forgot the cone filter.One more thing before I go alway's you's 2 step colder plugs. :rolleyes:

[APEXistud]

What kinda shot are you running? Hell with times like those you can say that you're unofficially the fastest MP3 in the country.

[enry]

Originally posted by ChrisS:
<STRONG>What does that mean??</STRONG>

the fsze engine is 2000$. see the mp3 product page at http://www.mazdamp3.com/shop.php for more info.

[jayrcr]

Im runing only a 50 shot with drag radial's.And the plugs gapped at 35.That way the NOS doesn't blow out the spark.The only thing im worried about is I cant retard the ignition because it's a distrbutless motor.But I have a way to deal with that problem.MSD makes a multi-step retard box.The way it works is it let's you run the ignition full advance or stock timing but when you spray it retards the ignition 1-3 degrees.That way you dont lean out the motor and go boooooom! :eek: But i will tell you I give a lot of si's a run for there money whitch i usually take! :D

[MazdaMP]

@JayRCR
how muc did you pay for it installed? Where did you get it? Thanks so much for your help!
GreetZ

[jayrcr]

I payed $475.00 for the kit but if you shop around you could find it cheaper.As for the install im a import mechanic I did it myself.It took about 4 hours cause I wanted it to look clean. I have alot more to say on this but im late for work later.By the way is there a MP3 chat room. :D

[big_ben]

That's a good idea. We should ask Enry about trying to set up a chat room on the site. I think that would be pretty cool. If you're out there Enry, what do ya think?

[MazdaMP]

@jayrcr

do you live in houston or somewhere else in TX?
(I know there is another MP3 in Kingwood that has NOS) I live in Kingwood, would you be interested in installin NOS into m car?
Thanks

[jayrcr]

I live about 30 minutes from houston.I work in south houston at a dealership maybe you guy's have heard of it . David Mc david HONDA.Whoop's I said a dirty word.Ive got a problem maybe you guy's could help.I had a little accident in san antonio 4 weeks ago.There still waiting on parts.Thats the problem it wasn't alot of damage. But there still waiting on the fender.Will a MP5 fender fit?

[MazdaMP]

hi, as a matter of fact i now that dealership...it's at I45, isn't it?
how much would you want to install a poor college student some NOS in his "baby"?
Thanks

[jayrcr]

I usually charge $150.00 for import's and $250.00 for V-8's.BUT for a fellow MP3 racer ill charge half that price but you will have to help.That's the only way to learn how to work on your own car.If you drive by one day don't look for the MP3 my baby still in shop they told me yesterday that mazda factory has to stamp a new fender for my car.That's crazy huh.So for now i drive my trans am that doesn't corner very well.But it does the 1\4 mile in 12.75's at 115.0 mph. :D

[LinuxRacr]

Originally posted by jayrcr:
<STRONG>I usually charge $150.00 for import's and $250.00 for V-8's.BUT for a fellow MP3 racer ill charge half that price but you will have to help.That's the only way to learn how to work on your own car.If you drive by one day don't look for the MP3 my baby still in shop they told me yesterday that mazda factory has to stamp a new fender for my car.That's crazy huh.So for now i drive my trans am that doesn't corner very well.But it does the 1\4 mile in 12.75's at 115.0 mph. :D</STRONG>

Finally, some answere!! This is what I have been waiting for. I was gonna wait for a turbo, or supercharger, but if this works, it will be alot cheaper, and sooner. Thanks! :D

[MazdaMP]

@jayrcr
Sounds good to me :) however i hit a deer like 90 minutes ago and first i need to get my car fixed :( :(

[jayrcr]

Dude sorry to here it.I hope your still in one piece.I hit a curb in San Antonio 5 week's ago.I might get it back this week.I had a little fender damage and the mazda factory had to stamp a new fender and form a new side skirt.

[MazdaMP]

so it needs Mazda 5 weeks to get the parts for the car? PLEASE DON't TELL ME THAT THAT's WHAT IT MEANS :(

[jayrcr]

Well im not saying that your's will take that long.When they ordered my shock from tokico it only took 3 day's and the racing beat front sway bar 4 day's. But yes the mazda part's took awhile.But let's hope when they got my order they made more part's.Keep me informed.I took mine to protech collision in clear lake on bay area blvd.The damm car is still there due to the availabilty of part's.But everything is there so I should get it back this week.

[LinuxRacr]

It may be obvious to some out there, but how will the NOS affect the warranty? Does it void automatically, or do they still have to prove that NOS phucked up the engine? :cool:

[jayrcr]

Yes it is obvious that NOS will mess up a warranty but the only way is to not get caught using it. That's why you make the system easy enough to uninstall in about 20 minutes but yet it's still a clean install job. You install it so that when you take it off, no one can tell what happened except you. This is coming from an experienced import mechanic of eleven years. :D

[MP3-Owner]

I need help installing my N2O? I have a local perfomacne shop here but I am not sure about their quality. Can you give a brief desciption of how you did your install? Like how to take it out in 20min. with no witness marks? It would be greatly appreciated.
:D

[ 11-08-2001: Message edited by: MP3-Owner ]

[MazdaMP]

or maybe even some pics.... of the nos install....

[MP3-Owner]

Yeah that would be nice if it is not asking too much. My kit should be here in a few weeks. Can't wait. :D

[jayrcr]

Yes i will post somthing in a day or so. But it's a little complicated to explain just wrighting it out.OH ya i forgot i dont have a scanner for pictures. SORRY TRY the on-line chat thing so far its only been me and enry.

[enry]

Jaycr let's see if we can put that nos post of yours in the new forum. Contact me please.

[subywan-kenobi]

A few things to add:

It is good bang for buck power and as long as you keep the shot to about 50 to 60 on the stock motor, you should be okay. However, if you plan on just running it for track day, then I would not throw 2 range colder plugs in for every day driving. Your plugs are easy to change out, keep your colder plugs handy for track day or when you know you will be squeezing.

As far as being worried about warranty work, the only thing I would really be concerned about, as long as you are keeping the shot small, would be tranny life. Something to think about would be some type of window switch to shut off near the top of your rev band right before you shift, so you are not transferring all that power through your tranny. This will take some stress off the tranny that even a 50 shot does create and in the end, let your tranny live longer.

jayrcr covered the rest pretty well, so happy squeezing!!