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MoJoeTCM
07-25-2005, 03:04 PM
I noticed on APEXR1.com that they are going for $160 shipped. It drops the car two inches all around.... I did a search and no one seems to have these....other than the coilovers. Are these springs not worth the money or something?

Autox MSP
07-25-2005, 03:07 PM
skunk2 sucks. least their coilovers do.

MoJoeTCM
07-25-2005, 03:10 PM
sucks....can you be more descriptive? The ride is bumpy? i know the coilovers lack in quality but what about the springs?

tviera
07-25-2005, 03:14 PM
If you want to downgrade your stock suspension, then buy them. At least keep the old ones, you'll be putting them back on within a month.

mp5smuggler
07-25-2005, 03:34 PM
i had them on for over a year. the ride is bumpy. they make grinding and boinging noises during low speed parking lot turns. they lower the life of struts bigtime too after 2 years they were totally shot.

UnNaturalinc
07-27-2005, 02:04 PM
skunk2 sucks. least their coilovers do.

Just as good (or crappy) as any other "coilover" sleeve on the market.

I hate those things too. I generally recommend against them.

MoJoeTCM
07-27-2005, 02:46 PM
well i am just going to keep my sportlines then.....any advice before installing? A shop is doing it for 125 and i plan to align it one week later.....then i will slap on my dp10's.....maybe then a photoshoot.....if i cut my fenders in time(rockon)

MoJoeTCM
07-27-2005, 02:48 PM
Just as good (or crappy) as any other "coilover" sleeve on the market.

I hate those things too. I generally recommend against them.


You need mazdaspeed springs i see?? make an offer.....

69RMSP
07-27-2005, 02:52 PM
Springs are uesless,
one of the main reasons why I bout the MSP was because of the stock suspension. Don't downgrade your suspension just to have it dropped.

My 2003.5 settled alot compared to when I bout it but it still needs a drop. Basicly save your money for proper suspension, go big or go home


I noticed on APEXR1.com that they are going for $160 shipped. It drops the car two inches all around.... I did a search and no one seems to have these....other than the coilovers. Are these springs not worth the money or something?

mp5smuggler
07-27-2005, 03:40 PM
Springs are uesless,
one of the main reasons why I bout the MSP was because of the stock suspension. Don't downgrade your suspension just to have it dropped.

My 2003.5 settled alot compared to when I bout it but it still needs a drop. Basicly save your money for proper suspension, go big or go home


what in the word is "bout" are you trying to type the word "bought"?

MoJoeTCM
07-28-2005, 12:39 AM
I am not looking for a high performance vehicle that can take 90 deg turns at 60 mph. The speed and handling is more than decent for me now...i am in college and i dont really care about autoxing or drag racing....soooo i see no point in blowing 1500 bucks on a high end suspension set up. The car just needs some upgrades for static purposes. Speaking of looks....how much do the 03.5 lips run? I am thinking of doing that instead of a dg lip.

ForceFed
07-28-2005, 12:45 AM
All of these guys commenting were refering to the Skunk coildovers....Not what you were talking about which is STRAIGHT UP drop springs from skunk.Skunk makes Great stuff...just not for anything that is outta the honda world like the mazdas.I had Skunk coilovers on my old del sol and it Rode like a dream and didn't make a lick of noise for three years.But I have heard that the coild overs for our cars likr to pop and make noises.

I am still interested as you are in the actual Skunk Drop Springs.

MP3Architect
07-28-2005, 12:52 AM
dont pay a shop 125 to put on your springs. shit its so easy. find someone in town to help you out. its a 20 min job that requires the simplest tools

MoJoeTCM
07-28-2005, 01:16 AM
dont pay a shop 125 to put on your springs. shit its so easy. find someone in town to help you out. its a 20 min job that requires the simplest tools

Is their a write up on HOW TO?

31R
07-28-2005, 02:36 AM
So on the site it mentions 2-2.5 inches drop all around. Im going to assume 2" is the minimum and is probally for the MSP. Sounds good to me. I would love a 2" drop.

sickspeed94
07-28-2005, 09:50 AM
get the GC's they don't bounce... i've had mine all the way slammed since the day i got them and they don't give me any shit, however i don't think i have any shocks left but hey, that's my fault for taking advantage of the adjustability (drunk)

sickspeed94
07-28-2005, 09:52 AM
But I have heard that the coild overs for our cars likr to pop and make noises.


i believe that's all sleeve type coilovers, mine do it every once in a while and it gets worse until i use some lithium grease on the tops by where they meet the strut housing.

UnNaturalinc
07-28-2005, 11:51 AM
dont pay a shop 125 to put on your springs. shit its so easy. find someone in town to help you out. its a 20 min job that requires the simplest tools

20mins to install lowering springs? I don't think so....

If you are unable to do it yourself, then $125 is a good price from a shop. I usually charge $70 if I do it for someone on the side.

It's recommended you use spring compressors to remove them from the strut also, not a tool that most people have. Most any other way to take the spring off isn't exactly safe. Spring compressors increase quite a bit of time, I don't use them usually for that very reason.

Suspension is a very straight-forward thing however.

69RMSP
07-28-2005, 11:59 AM
Im not admitting to anything!! (butt)


what in the word is "bout" are you trying to type the word "bought"?

mp5smuggler
07-28-2005, 12:10 PM
i have changed the springs on mp5s many times and my buddy and i have it down to an hour taking our time and 30 min if we are rushing. on the spring compressor we are lucky and use my cordless impact to tighten it down it saves SO much time.

Velocifero
07-28-2005, 12:22 PM
20mins to install lowering springs? I don't think so....

If you are unable to do it yourself, then $125 is a good price from a shop. I usually charge $70 if I do it for someone on the side.

It's recommended you use spring compressors to remove them from the strut also, not a tool that most people have. Most any other way to take the spring off isn't exactly safe. Spring compressors increase quite a bit of time, I don't use them usually for that very reason.

Suspension is a very straight-forward thing however.
Agreed, last 2 weekends I've helped install illiuminatas (sp?) and Espielers (sp?) on 2 different pros and they weren't hard, but they do take a little bit of time, first off our endinks are retarded hard to break loose and that took us quite a bit of time (no impact wrench, but your not supposed to use one anyway), next time comsumer was the spring compressors, make sure you have a large adjustable wrench. But other than those it was pretty easyand very straight forward, don't try it by yourself but it is a good experience to do.

mp5smuggler
07-28-2005, 12:29 PM
4 jack stands impact for the wheels lil lube on the endlinks work on the fronts impact on the compressor IF they are stock springs. if not then no need for the compressor. reinstall fronts. take apart the rear. hint get a swivel extension for your socket. that way you can just take the top of the rear plastic covers off and you dont have to take everything off. it makes life so much easier.

Velocifero
07-28-2005, 12:37 PM
4 jack stands impact for the wheels lil lube on the endlinks work on the fronts impact on the compressor IF they are stock springs. if not then no need for the compressor. reinstall fronts. take apart the rear. hint get a swivel extension for your socket. that way you can just take the top of the rear plastic covers off and you dont have to take everything off. it makes life so much easier.
that was our plan, but these endlinks wouldn't budge, we used pb blaster on them about 12 times, we actually ended up cutting two nuts off with a diamond wheel on a dremmel, both on the drivers side of the same car, the passanger sides came off with ease.

sickspeed94
07-28-2005, 02:15 PM
in place of a spring compressor, you can use either a big vice grip or even a channel lock (that's what i used to do mine and my buddies) just make sure (if you car what your springs look like) that you use some sort of padding between the teeth and the spring... personally i could car less. most of the time you don't even need a spring compressor, you can just pull off the tire, put a jack under the brake caliper, and then unscrew the nut, slowly lower the jack, and no need for spring compressor.

UnNaturalinc
07-28-2005, 02:43 PM
in place of a spring compressor, you can use either a big vice grip or even a channel lock (that's what i used to do mine and my buddies) just make sure (if you car what your springs look like) that you use some sort of padding between the teeth and the spring... personally i could car less. most of the time you don't even need a spring compressor, you can just pull off the tire, put a jack under the brake caliper, and then unscrew the nut, slowly lower the jack, and no need for spring compressor.

Wow, that is an extremely unsafe (to your own health and to the car) way of doing suspension.

A 'spring compressor' compresses and decompresses the spring slowing, at the rate you allow it to move. That is why it is safe. Locking or non-locking pliers are not going to do anything that a compressor will do. I don't even see how that'd even work. Force from the jack should NOT be put on the brake caliper. It is not a mounting or lifting point.

If you want to do it quickly and don't care that much about being 100% safe (safe is in the eye of the beholder I guess) then you can take the strut/spring combination out, lay it on the ground, put your foot on the spring, and zip the nut off with an airgun (airgun butted against a wall or something very stable). Adding some heavy zip ties to the coils will also absorb some of the shock on 'launch'. Depending on the specific setup/application, the strut will only 'shoot' out a short distance (some cars have more compressed springs than others). In a lot of cases you can use your body weight to push down on the strut mount and have another person get the nut started. I would never 'recommend' doing this, but it's a reasonably safe option for those who don't want to spend 4 hours doing a suspension job.

RallyeRedSi
07-28-2005, 02:49 PM
uuum these skink 2 springs sounds interesting you think they would ride the same as the coilovers? I also saw H & R springs there how much do they drop our car?

UnNaturalinc
07-28-2005, 02:53 PM
uuum these skink 2 springs sounds interesting you think they would ride the same as a the coilovers?

If they're just springs, they should ride better than coilover sleeves. Depending on the rate and design of course. Skunk 2 does make quality products however.

The main reason why coilover sleeves don't ride well is because people lower the crap out of them on stock struts. :)

Autox MSP
07-28-2005, 02:53 PM
skunk2 is gonna ride horrible because of less suspension travel. I'd stick with eibachs. those guys know what they are doing.