Swap motor

[spiker]

Hi, can you explain to me, what the differance which the 1.6, 1.8, 2.0L motor in a protege 99?

And where I can see the engine code?

[Captain KRM P5]

1.6 is a ZM engine, 1.8 is an FP i believe and 2.0 is an FS engine

the 1.8 and 2.0 share the same block, slightly longer stroke on the 2.0 liter. they make 128 and 130 crank horsepower respectively. many aftermarket parts for the 2.0 will fit up to the 1.8 and vice versa.

the 1.6 shares nothing in common with the 1.8 or 2.0

[spiker]

Ok, but 1.8 and 2.0L have the same motormounts? And the 1.6L are different?

[Witchdoktor]

if you have the 1.6 and you're looking to swap you'd want to look into forced induction first

[Shane5425]

yep 1.6l = boost beast

[spiker]

1.6l is more potential of the 1.8/2.0L?

Habitually is not an engine with more displacement = more power?

[Shane5425]

the 1.6l can hold more boost than the 1.8/2.0, because of the bigger ones have longer stroked engines, the rods are to weak, and they bend, the 1.6l has a shorter stroke and have thicker rods, cause i mean, at 20 psi on the 1.6l with the hiboost kit, u run roughly 300whp, with a built 2.0l, people are gettin alot higher than that at the same psi, but they have a 2k built motor, and the 1.6l is still running stock internals..

[Witchdoktor]

keep in mind 20psi daily is not a good idea, this motor will blow at some point although none of us have done it yet
GOLDPRO runs the highest @ 12psi

[Shane5425]

keep in mind 20psi daily is not a good idea, this motor will blow at some point although none of us have done it yet
GOLDPRO runs the highest @ 12psi

thought bickman was at like 17-18, but true, gold pro does run the highest daily, but the same goes for those built 2.0s to , they dont run 16+psi daily, only for a race.. or something,

mia has his set for 17psi once his tranny is fixed.. he will be putting a motor in it next.. lol

[Witchdoktor]

biknman is no longer on stock internals, I don't think there's anything stock on his car anymore - lol

wagner recommends not going past 12psi on stock internals, I'd go by his word

mia comment - LMAO!!!

[Shane5425]

biknman is no longer on stock internals, I don't think there's anything stock on his car anymore - lol

wagner recommends not going past 12psi on stock internals, I'd go by his word

mia comment - LMAO!!!

biknman -- he was stock internals, he jsut took it all out to build it up..

wagner-- juan has the same recommendations

mia comment... yep... 17psi.. his friend changed it on the laptop before i droped the car off to the tech to fix the tranny problem...

[spiker]

And Some people had swaped automatic tranny to manual? Is it very Hard ?

[Bala]

And Some people had swaped automatic tranny to manual? Is it very Hard ?

Harder than selling your car and getting the platform you really want.

[U-Turn]

What about swaping for another motor than the protegé motors. What about the 2.3L or 3.0L of the mazda 6 motors?

[MIA protege]

keep in mind 20psi daily is not a good idea, this motor will blow at some point although none of us have done it yet
GOLDPRO runs the highest @ 12psi

unfortunately, theres a first for everything :'(

[Captain KRM P5]

What about swaping for another motor than the protegé motors. What about the 2.3L or 3.0L of the mazda 6 motors?

the 2.3 and 3.0 are radically different in every respect. returnless fuel systems, electronically controlled throttle, reversed layout in the engine bay, different wiring and computer, mounts....

[Shane5425]

check out hte v6 thread, thats an interesting engine swap..

[U-Turn]

Where is that thread (scratch) ? By the way, thanks for your answers, maybe I'll make more research and try it. I'll let you know if I try.

[island-p5]

the 1.6l can hold more boost than the 1.8/2.0, because of the bigger ones have longer stroked engines, the rods are to weak, and they bend, the 1.6l has a shorter stroke and have thicker rods, cause i mean, at 20 psi on the 1.6l with the hiboost kit, u run roughly 300whp, with a built 2.0l, people are gettin alot higher than that at the same psi, but they have a 2k built motor, and the 1.6l is still running stock internals..
I a 1.5 vvt japan spec should i turbo that motor or put in a jmd 1.8 turbo GTX or GTR. the 1.5 redline at 7500rpm 5-speed.

[Shane5425]

id turbo ur 1.5l, both the 1.6l and 1.5l are similair, considering i can take the head off of ur engine and it will bolt right up to mine, i would just say watch ur boost levels past 6500k

[nautical2086]

1.6 is a ZM engine, 1.8 is an FP i believe and 2.0 is an FS engine

the 1.8 and 2.0 share the same block, slightly longer stroke on the 2.0 liter. they make 128 and 130 crank horsepower respectively. many aftermarket parts for the 2.0 will fit up to the 1.8 and vice versa.

the 1.6 shares nothing in common with the 1.8 or 2.0

I believe the 1.8 is also a FS not FP

[Shane5425]

no , fp

[Protephile]

And Some people had swaped automatic tranny to manual? Is it very Hard ?

I think you are getting over your head here. If you've got a 1.6l engine with auto, figure @ 6psi turboed, tops. Face it, you've got a slow as hell Protege with an automatic tranny. If you're gonna sink all this money into it by swapping engines and trannies, just buy another car.

[Shane5425]

I think you are getting over your head here. If you've got a 1.6l engine with auto, figure @ 6psi turboed, tops. Face it, you've got a slow as hell Protege with an automatic tranny. If you're gonna sink all this money into it by swapping engines and trannies, just buy another car.

upgrade to a lentech valve body and upgraded tranny cooler with redline atx fluid, u can hold up to 10 psi , great for a daily driver, or rebuild the auto with the parts above by a proffessional and he can get it to hold 400whp if he knows what he is doing..

[tyrant13]

I am driving a manual 1.6L. Say if i were to boost only to abt 7-8psi on stock internals with no added or modded injectors, will it works? Only with custom exhaust manifold, intercooler, turbine. Probably with SAFC to tune it.

Can my ride take it for daily use? Wish to drive it for another 5yrs or so...

And wat would be the expected gain? 50whp for 7-8psi?

[00zmde]

I read somewhere you would probably be at 100% duty on those injectors. I think
someone on this forum has dynoed the Hiboost kit at 7 or 8 psi and gained alot more than 50whp. Dont take my word for it though do a search. I would link you up but I dont even know how to post correctly.

[MIA protege]

I am driving a manual 1.6L. Say if i were to boost only to abt 7-8psi on stock internals with no added or modded injectors, will it works? Only with custom exhaust manifold, intercooler, turbine. Probably with SAFC to tune it.

Can my ride take it for daily use? Wish to drive it for another 5yrs or so...

And wat would be the expected gain? 50whp for 7-8psi?

at 7-8psi you're looking at 100hp increase. i think stock 1.6 is at 83ish whp ... 7-8psi gets you around 180-190ish whp with the hiboost kit. Juan dynoed one at 9psi at 201whp if im not mistaken
u would need to upgrade injectors.

[tyrant13]

at 7-8psi you're looking at 100hp increase. i think stock 1.6 is at 83ish whp ... 7-8psi gets you around 180-190ish whp with the hiboost kit. Juan dynoed one at 9psi at 201whp if im not mistaken
u would need to upgrade injectors.


How many cc is the stock injectors?