Stock Stereo - Sat Radio, Tape Decks, iPod?

[Kaian]

From the information on mazdausa.com web site, the stereo on the Mazda5 is a "AM/FM/CD audio system" and there is the option to make this an in-dash 6-disc CD changer.

I've now seen models with both the 1 CD and 6 CD versions, and on both of them there are the following buttons along the top: FM/AM - SAT - CD - MEDIA

The first and third buttons are obvious, but there is no function associated with the SAT or MEDIA buttons that I can tell. In the Mazda5s I have seen, there is a "Quick User Guide" that is a series of flip cards going over various features of the Mazda5. I photocopied one of those and looking through it, there are references to SAT being "Satellite ready capability" and MEDIA is "Press to play MD or tape", with an asterix stating that this "denotes optional equipment".

Futhermore, there is a picture of the whole stereo setup, with "Cassette tape slot" and "MD slot" shown as options in the centre of the console, between the volume knob and the and the tuning knob. As far as I can tell, neither satellite radio nor cassette or MD deck is available in America or in Canada, although I'm fairly certain these are options in other locales. I imagine the Quick User Guide is used in many different areas and that's why those are still listed in there.

What I want to know is -- Does anyone have information on what can be done aftermarket to "put in" one or more of these options while keeping the stock deck? Is it possible to install a satellite radio system seamlessly into the system connecting to the SAT button?

My personal desire is to know if an iPod be hooked up in such a way to be usable by either the SAT or MEDIA buttons, but I'm sure others are interested in Sirius/XM radio, tape decks, or just a convienent Aux input. Given the integration of the stock stereo into the car, it would be best to try to take advantage of whatever features it can support rather than buying an aftermarket deck. And I can tell those two buttons want to be used. :)

Anyone have a clue on this?

[wongpres]

The Mazda5 headunit is the same as all other new-gen Mazdas (e.g. Mazda3, 6, RX-8). The headunit design is modular in that various pieces can be removed and/or added to it as accessories (e.g. replace single CD with single CD that can also read MP3, add cassette player, add MD player). However, there are some rules, as in you can only choose cassette or MD but not both, and you can't have both the MP3 CD and the in-dash 6CD.

The satellite radio works the same way, with Sirius offered as an accessory (all Ford family is with Sirius).

Regarding the buttons, SAT is only activated if you have the satellite radio accessory and the MEDIA is only activated if you have the tape or MD accessory.

What I've described is the stock setup. Go on the other new-gen Mazda sections on this board to see how people have retrofitted various aftermarket solutions (e.g. iPod).

[Kaian]

Thanks wongpres. I suspected there were at least similarities between the stereos of the 5, 3 and 6 but I appreciate the confirmation.

I figured out the "cassette or MD but not both" from the context of the Quick Start Guide. On the Mazda5 vehicles I've seen, there is just a sort of placeholder in that area, that says "Multi Function Audio System". Am I right in assuming this is something that could be removed making an opening in that area?

I'll try to check out the other areas in more depth. I went looking awhile ago in that area and it was hard for me to find threads that I thought would be relevant -- the signal to noise ratio seemed off for me. If anyone knows of a specific thread to read a link would be appreciated.

And if I find anything I think is useful I'll link it here myself for others who are interested in this topic.

[perfecto]

Cassette is an available option in Canada.

[wongpres]

I figured out the "cassette or MD but not both" from the context of the Quick Start Guide. On the Mazda5 vehicles I've seen, there is just a sort of placeholder in that area, that says "Multi Function Audio System". Am I right in assuming this is something that could be removed making an opening in that area?


Yes, the tape or MD goes here.



I'll try to check out the other areas in more depth. I went looking awhile ago in that area and it was hard for me to find threads that I thought would be relevant -- the signal to noise ratio seemed off for me. If anyone knows of a specific thread to read a link would be appreciated.


As I'm also a Mazda3 moderator, I'm more familiar with the audio threads that have gone on there (as I'm not particularly interested or knowledgeable about aftermarket audio solutions). So here's a couple I found:

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=104156
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=91184
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65443

[fam]

Cassette is an available option in Canada.

Must be alot of old people there (joking) :-) Unless its winter, then they are in florida.

[Kaian]

Ok, here's my first iPod update.

To get iPod sounds into the stereo, there are roughly three ways to go about it: FM transmitter, cassette tape adapter, or find a way to get an auxiliary input, which may be just a line-in or a dedicated iPod dock connector.

In this post I'm going to write about the easiest method for most people, the FM transmitter. This takes the iPod sound and transmits it on an FM frequency, and you then tune the car stereo to the right station to listen. There are a number of them out there, and they have the advantage that you can take them with you and use them in any other car, which is great if you're traveling and have a rental car.

The disadvantage is that sound quality can vary wildly. Some transmitters are better than others, but the main issue is finding a clear frequency to use. In my case, it's particularly difficult as the SF Bay Area is fairly crowded, and there are multiple broadcast areas: some stations broadcast from SF, some from the San Jose area I live closer to, and it's easy to take a short drive to the Santa Cruz area or the Easy Bay where there are yet more stations. One can get an acceptable frequency in one region, and then have it go out on you when you travel to another area.

Anyway, I'm using the Monster iCarPlay (http://www.monstercable.com/computer/productPageComputer.asp?pin=2084) (I've had this for awhile because my wife was using it on business trips) and it works fairly well for the moment. It goes into the accessory plug and I was able to hide the cable very well underneath the console then the cable comes up from the passengers side and I drop the cable into the console well when not in use. When I get into the car, I open the console, take the cable out, drop half the console to get the upper part which is a perfect size to hold the iPod, connect to the dock connector, and I can close the console at this point if I wish.

If the iPod is playing when the car is turned off, then the iPod goes into pause mode. Unfortunately, starting the car does not put the iPod into play, but it does 'activate it' if it had been in the off/sleep mode. It's not a bad system. I get in the car, hook it up, start the car, select a playlist, start playing, close the console, then do my release hand brake/shift/drive and leave things alone until I stop the car which pauses the iPod.

The disadvantage is that if I want to skip a track or do anything with the iPod I can't do it easily, as it's not mounted in any real visible spot and steering wheel/stereo controls of course can't do anything than adjust volume. If I'm at a stop light with a minute to spare I can grab the iPod and mess with it a moment before putting it down, but obviously you need to concentrate on driving, not messing with tunes. If you have a passenger in the front seat then that person can play DJ for you. :)

Overall I give this system 8 out of 10 for style -- you can't really tell there is a cable to connect as it's black, but sometimes the middle area that switches stations falls into the cup area, a 6 out of 10 for sound, which is great at times but gets some noise on occasion, and a 6 out of ten for usability as it works, but it's much easier to change stations or CD tracks than it is to switch things on the iPod.

Other FM transmitters people may want to consider include:

Kensington Digital FM Transmitter/Auto Charger (http://www.kensington.com/html/6402.html) -- similar to the Monster iCarPlay, some say it works a little better, some don't. It's white though so it won't blend in like the black Monster cable will.

AirPlay (http://www.xtrememac.com/adapters/airplay.shtml) -- a small device that hooks to the top of the iPod, doesn't charge it but also doesn't have a cable to hide either, and could be used to transmit to other stereos instead of 'just' a car -- although there are wall-socket to car plug adaptors out there if anyone wanted to use one of the previous transmitters elsewhere too.

There are reviews for all of these, and more, at "iLounge" a web site devoted to iPod issues and reviews and such.

http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/reviews/

[Kaian]

Second iPod update:

Let's talk about cassette adapters. As noted earlier in this thread, one can get a cassette deck for the Mazda5 in Canada, and I imagine there's a way to get this in the States as well, although I haven't looked into it yet. While playing cassettes may not be something many people want to do anymore, it provides another way to get iPod sounds into the stereo.

This XtremeMac (http://www.xtrememac.com/adapters/cassette_adapter.shtml) adapter is typical of what one can get. Advantages are they tend to be a bit cheaper than a FM transmitter, but if you have to buy the Mazda cassette deck I imagine that will offset any savings, and you don't have to worry about finding a frequency. Sound quality is supposedly a little better but I haven't done comparisons in any car to hear that for myself.

Disadvantages include the lack of portability to other cars, unless they too have cassette decks, and it's still not the best sound you can get. Also you have a cable coming right out of your stereo when it's hooked up. Finally, you're not going to charge the iPod with this like you can with some other systems, but nothing is stopping you from using both a cassette adapter and a separate charger device.


One interesting upcoming device in this area is something called the SmartDeck (http://griffintechnology.com/products/smartdeck/), which goes beyond the typical adapter by allowing some steering wheel controls to work: To quote -- "it achieves truly seamless integration between iPod and cassette deck. Use the cassette deck's forward and rewind buttons to advance to the next or prior songs in the iPod playlist. Pause and stop buttons do what pause and stop buttons are expected to do." Of course, the SmartDeck is not out yet. When it comes out, i may get it and try it in my wife's Toyota Sienna which has a cassette deck, just to see how it works and to give her a solution since I stole her FM transmitter. :)

Another thing I like about these kind of solutions is it makes use of the otherwise ignored "Media" button, whereas other solutions piggyback over FM or do things to the CD player (which I'll get into in a future update). I might be a little weird, but I don't like having buttons that do nothing. :)

[mz5]

Kaian....
I'm in the same boat. I had my Mazda 5 for 2 days now and I miss my MP3 player.
My car comes with the popular pack so I have the 6 CD....but still want to connect my MP3 player. I use aux adaptor in my previous car. The adaptor uses the CD changer input...telling the head unit that there is a cd changer connected but actually it is the mp3 player. Try Blitzsafe website. I will try to contact the place that I bought my adaptor and see if they have something for mazda 5

[Kaian]

Ok, now it's time to get into the auxiliary inputs. The idea here is that we're going into the car to create the input we need. A direct input will have the best sound quality, but is the most complication option, as it requires disconnection and reconnecting things to the head unit.

Most inputs of this nature work with the CD player. You have a device that connects to the CD changer input and this devices fools the stereo into thinking you have a CD changer when in fact you're connected to the iPod. You usually activate this interface by pressing the CD button twice.

I've only looked briefly at the options in this area at the moment. Eventually I'll try to write a summary of the different connectors and costs for doing this, unless someone else wants to volunteer to write a summary for me. :) In this post I want to focus on another solution that has similarities and differences from using the CD changer.

AuxMod (http://www.sylfex.com/products/AuxMod/) is a project that aims to give auxiliary inputs using the cassette input rather than the CD changer. Unlike the cassette adapters mentioned in a previous post, AuxMod does not require you to already have a cassette deck. In fact, since this solution takes over that input, you cannot have both AuxMod and a cassette deck in the same car.

At the Syflex site you'll see references to the "Tape/MD" button -- this is the Media button on the Mazda5. As the site indicates, there are actually two versions of the AuxMod. The Basic will give just an input, while the Advanced aims to give better features.

From what I've read, this is a independent home project, which seems to work fine, but requires people to be on a waiting list while they make these units. Additionally, one needs to figure out the installation themselves -- Syflex just sends you the device.

I'm personally leaning towards this solution, but I don't want to rush into things. I'll wait a bit to see how the Advanced units work, and I'd like to get some clear instructions on how to get into the stereo on the Mazda5 rather than be the first to do it. :)

If you want to read more about this from these forums, check out Aux Input, On It's Way! (http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?p=843573), which is an insanely long thread where I first found mention of this. Note there's a lot more in that thread than just AuxMod, including some options from awhile ago that didn't pan out, some talk of CD changer solutions, etc. I include the link for completeness, but the signal-to-noise ratio in there is not ideal from my point of view. :)

OverLORD, the person behind Syflex, seems to be giving updates at this Custom Aux-In Module thread (http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=17396&page=74&pp=15) on the RX8Club Forum. The last comment from him on this on 6 July 2005:



We want to make the iPOD interface work seamlessly. It's going to take some doing, and may delay our launch of Advanced a bit, but we're pretty sure that we can create some hooks to allow the PC app to pull/push data from Winamp or another app to the HU, as well as the same from the iPOD. It's just a matter of time to get the user interface and the nitty gritty ironed out.

Still, please don't hold me to it until it's done

Regards,

OverLOAD

As I mentioned earlier, from an aesthetic view I like the idea of using the Media button rather than messing with the CD changer stuff (I believe sound-wise both options would be fairly equal), which is why this option appeals to me.

However, the CD changer options are more established (because they can be used with pretty much any stereo with CD changer connectors) and there's a few options there still to go over that may be more viable now for those not willing to wait. And if you don't want to go to the trouble of having to do an install the FM modulator option is much less hassle to setup.

[miatafied]

Kaian - thanks for all the info! I've been reading all the posts by overLORD et., al - pretty interesting stuff - I wonder how long it'll take for stock HU's to have a aux jack pre-installed. I don't have an ipod - the hubby does - but I'm thinking that since the CD changer is mp3 compatible - I'll just burn some of his favs onto CD and keep them in the car - he doesn't drive it that often (his loss!)

Anyhow, keep us posted!

- Ceril

[Kaian]

I lurk around at a few other forums, and on the Mazda5 forum at MPVClub.com, there's a thread (http://www.mpvclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10305&start=15&sid=e1a79d3cbacdf50dc680838e5dbb1bfa) about stereos and "papabear" posted some illustrations on how to get to the head unit.

Note there are two relevant posts. The first post has four illustrations, but a little later in the thread someone asks about finding screws, which brings another post stating that you have to do some extra steps involving messing with the shifter area. This second post includes three additional illustrations.

I've copied the information to a local file in case I ever want to be brave and try to do a modification myself, but I felt is was better to post the original source of the information rather than reproduce the info directly here. Credit where credit is due and all that.

I don't have any plans at the moment to try a mod as we're exactly three weeks from my wife's due date (we're about to have our third child, a girl to join our two boys) and I don't want to attempt a project when there's a chance she could go into labour at any moment. :)

[miatafied]

Thanks, again for pointing me in the right direction. I don't know if I'm brave enough to make a try while the car is this new - that's a good idea to save the info to a file somewhere so that I don't have to do the search from scratch when I'm ready.

Congrats on kid #3 - big step! Get your sleep, if you can, NOW! LOL.


I don't want to attempt a project when there's a chance she could go into labour at any moment. :)

Yeah, I can see that - rushing to the hospital with the dash ripped apart!! On my old miata - to get to the HU you had to disconnect the button to the emergency flashers and to the flip up headlights - I think that more than once I forgot to reconnect them.

[Kaian]

Yeah, I can see that - rushing to the hospital with the dash ripped apart!!

Yeah, that's what I want to avoid. Plus, I still don't have anything to put in right now. I'm leaning towards doing the AuxMod eventually, but I want to see how the Advanced version works out, and then apparently there's a big waiting list. At least now I have some idea of how I'd get that in there once I got it.

If I ever do tackle such a project, I'd take a lot of pictures of the process and make a thread for it. Part of me hopes someone else gets inspired by this thread and tackles it first though so I'm not the guinea pig. (eek2)

[Kaian]

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2005/aug/04cars.html

Apple & Leading Car Companies Team Up to Deliver Seamless iPod Experience in Japan

TOKYO—August 4, 2005—Apple® today announced that Nissan, Mazda and Daihatsu in Japan have joined BMW, MINI, smart and Alfa Romeo in Japan to deliver iPod® integration with their car stereos for 2006 model lines. Seamless integration of iPods in cars allows music lovers to enjoy high-quality sound through their car’s stereo system, easily access their entire music library and take their music with them everywhere they go.

[the_saint]

Here's an iPod adapter that hooks into the back of the factory H/U.
I don't know anything otherthan what this ebay link says. If this thing works like it says, I may have to get myself an iPod. (boom07)




http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Premacy-iPod-link-to-Factory-Stereo-Mazda-NANO_W0QQitemZ8009072221QQcategoryZ43948QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem

[rromo77]

The Mazda5 headunit is the same as all other new-gen Mazdas (e.g. Mazda3, 6, RX-8). The headunit design is modular in that various pieces can be removed and/or added to it as accessories (e.g. replace single CD with single CD that can also read MP3, add cassette player, add MD player). However, there are some rules, as in you can only choose cassette or MD but not both, and you can't have both the MP3 CD and the in-dash 6CD.

The satellite radio works the same way, with Sirius offered as an accessory (all Ford family is with Sirius).

Regarding the buttons, SAT is only activated if you have the satellite radio accessory and the MEDIA is only activated if you have the tape or MD accessory.

What I've described is the stock setup. Go on the other new-gen Mazda sections on this board to see how people have retrofitted various aftermarket solutions (e.g. iPod).


how do i get the esn number from my mazda 3 radio????????????????

[miatafied]

Wondering if anyone here has tried the AuxMod yet. Looks pretty simple and inexpensive.....


http://www.sylfex.com/products/AuxMod/

[pbdave]

Wondering if anyone here has tried the AuxMod yet. Looks pretty simple and inexpensive.....


http://www.sylfex.com/products/AuxMod/


check out here for info on auxmod - they have pretty detailed instructions and pics showing the install.

http://www.mpvclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11333

[Kid Red]

I'm on the waiting list for the AuxMod advanced and currently use the Monster iCar thing. It worked fine with my Jetta, but with the 5, I get some much static and when it comes thru, I can barely make it out. Why can't I get it going like some of you? I lay my iPod down by the cup holder.

Someone needs to make an iPod cradle/dock that has the dock connector in it along with the 3.5 plug that connects to a cirgarette lighter. THere are so many separate solutions but not one in a 'dock' type package with the dock conector. So, no cables to connect with the iPod, just dock it and go. I may try and jimmy rig something together with a cradle and my spare dock. But I still can't figure out why I can't get the Monster FM thing work right with my 5.

[mazda559]

How much is the auxmod advance? I just like it because it has the GLI on it. If its only $20 more then its a pretty good deal. If its more, then I think the regular will be fine. Just buy a GLI from radio shack.

[Zoom5Zoom]

can someone post the email contact link for the auxmod dudes. My link to email dumps the contact info.....:) I want one.

[Kid Red]

The advanced was/is $150 if I recall, however, not sure if that includes discount for returning the basic version. They were supposed to be a month away from finishing the advanced version in March, so they seem to be wayyyyyy behind.

[P_bouchr]

Well on my part I relied on the cassette deck. The sound is truly amazing from my nano, far better than I expected.

Anyone tries the smart deck from Griffin? I had it once for my Jetta, but returned it because it keeped pucking it :).

[doctorz]

We added a cassette player to our 5 (you can indeed get it in the US) and have tried two solutions to getting the iPod to play.

The iTrip (FM transmitter), which worked fine in our MPV, doesn't work great in the 5--it works reasonably well in rural areas if someone's holding the iPod, not so well in urban areas, and we have to switch the frequency about every 20 miles to avoid static.

We tried the Monster cassette adapter and the sound output is minimal. If both the iPod and the receiver's volumes are turned to max, you can barely hear the music, and that's with the car at idle. We didn't even try it with the car at highway speeds. The reviews of cassette adapters I've seen say that this can happen and depends on the car and the cassette adapter. Sometimes it doesn't even work at all.

Thoughts? What cassette adapter works well?

[Kid Red]

You guys really would be much better served with the AuxMod or similar aux cable hardwired to the HU. You'll get much better sound quality and cleaner look.

For those with money, I found this recently- http://2point5.com/

I'm playing with my own dock idea, and wondering if it's worth it over just wiring the ipod to the cup holder so it can be hidden without disconecting it all the time.

[EFDisaster]

We added a cassette player to our 5 (you can indeed get it in the US) and have tried two solutions to getting the iPod to play.

The iTrip (FM transmitter), which worked fine in our MPV, doesn't work great in the 5--it works reasonably well in rural areas if someone's holding the iPod, not so well in urban areas, and we have to switch the frequency about every 20 miles to avoid static.

We tried the Monster cassette adapter and the sound output is minimal. If both the iPod and the receiver's volumes are turned to max, you can barely hear the music, and that's with the car at idle. We didn't even try it with the car at highway speeds. The reviews of cassette adapters I've seen say that this can happen and depends on the car and the cassette adapter. Sometimes it doesn't even work at all.

Thoughts? What cassette adapter works well?


FM Transmitters kinda suck, and I've had the least amount of luck with them in the 5 than any other kind of car... the tape deck was a good investment. I got it, too. My cassette adapter is an old Sony, and the volume is just fine. I'm also using a Belkin power adapter that has an audio jack on it, so I'm using the fixed volume from the iPod and not the variable one from the headphone jack... no problems with being loud enough.

I've got the whole thing mounted on a crazy bendy mount from Best Buy that's supposed to stick to your windshield, but I stuck it on a spot just big enough, next to the shift knob (and bent it so my hand wouldn't hit it when shifting to park). I'll post some pics. The only person who didn't like it was the passenger who wanted to cross their left leg and put their knee where the iPod is... so I dumped her and got a new girlfriend who sits normally (evil)

It wouldn't let me upload the pictures... but they're on this page:
http://fashiondisaster.org/v/misc/?g2_page=3

direct links:
http://www.fashiondisaster.org/g2/d/2147-1/P9060013.JPG
http://www.fashiondisaster.org/g2/d/2150-1/P9060012.JPG

[P_bouchr]

@Doctorz
Seems that when it comes to cassette adapter, cheaper is better, remeber that. I tried the griffin smart deck woth no luck. The cheapo one I have still gives me good results after 3-4 years of use. Set ipod to 75% volume and you get approximately the same output as CD or radio. Plus bass booster on the ipod gives the mazda system sound what it lacks in bass.

[was98strat]

FM Transmitters kinda suck, and I've had the least amount of luck with them in the 5 than any other kind of car... the tape deck was a good investment. I got it, too. My cassette adapter is an old Sony, and the volume is just fine. I'm also using a Belkin power adapter that has an audio jack on it, so I'm using the fixed volume from the iPod and not the variable one from the headphone jack... no problems with being loud enough.

I've got the whole thing mounted on a crazy bendy mount from Best Buy that's supposed to stick to your windshield, but I stuck it on a spot just big enough, next to the shift knob (and bent it so my hand wouldn't hit it when shifting to park). I'll post some pics. The only person who didn't like it was the passenger who wanted to cross their left leg and put their knee where the iPod is... so I dumped her and got a new girlfriend who sits normally (evil)

It wouldn't let me upload the pictures... but they're on this page:
http://fashiondisaster.org/v/misc/?g2_page=3

direct links:
http://www.fashiondisaster.org/g2/d/2147-1/P9060013.JPG
http://www.fashiondisaster.org/g2/d/2150-1/P9060012.JPG

THink there is something wrong with the server you're images are on. It's soo slow. Almost as if the server is connected to a dialup connection!

[We&2kids]

@Doctorz
Seems that when it comes to cassette adapter, cheaper is better, remeber that. I tried the griffin smart deck woth no luck. The cheapo one I have still gives me good results after 3-4 years of use. Set ipod to 75% volume and you get approximately the same output as CD or radio. Plus bass booster on the ipod gives the mazda system sound what it lacks in bass.


I have just got the Smart Deck and have mixed feelings about it. This is why:

1. It works quite nicely with the cassette player in my Toyota Sienna. Runs very smooth and good sound output. I can now skip songs on my playlists with the controls on the sterring wheel, which is what I buy this for. Skip forward works 95% of the time (just click again when it doesn't work the first time), but skipping back is more of a challenge. According to the manual http://www.griffintechnology.com/support/article.php?artnum=115 you need to have very quick fingers to make it work. So far it only works for me in about 1/4 of the time. In most cases it just replays the same song from the beginning. That I can still live with.......

2. The problem is, I am going to trade in the Sienna for my 2007 Mazda5, and the SmartDeck doesn't work with my other car! (Audi A4) I tried and tried, and finally went back to the manual, only to find a small print that says "you cannot use the SmartDeck with some car cassette decks". I guess Audi is one of them!!!! Now my new Mazda5 will not come with a cassette deck and my original plan is to get one once I prove the SmartDeck works. I have sent an email to Griffin and asked them to confirm if the SmartDeck will work with the Mazda system. If not, I will end up buying something that is totally useless, at least for my circumstances!

My question to P_bouchr: when you said you had "no luck" with SmartDeck, did you try it with your Mazda5? If so, what was the problem? In my Audi, the cassette deck just ejects the adapter after a few seconds. When the adapter (SmartDeck) is inserted into the deck, it does activate the iPod (turns it on in pause mode) for 5 seconds or so, before it is ejected. Did you have the same experience?

[P_bouchr]

My question to P_bouchr: when you said you had "no luck" with SmartDeck, did you try it with your Mazda5? If so, what was the problem? In my Audi, the cassette deck just ejects the adapter after a few seconds. When the adapter (SmartDeck) is inserted into the deck, it does activate the iPod (turns it on in pause mode) for 5 seconds or so, before it is ejected. Did you have the same experience?

Nah, I had a chance to return this piece of crap before I had my 5. I had a VW monsoon system at that time and the cassette inserted, and when it managed to stay in deck I got no sound output, or very weak, and no ipod control. But 9 out of 10 times the deck just puked the cassette with a tape error.

But there are cassette adapters that works. Mine is. The only thing is there are no brands on it. I can try to google the part number if you wish. But as it's a normal cassette there are no ipod control.

[We&2kids]

Thanks, P_bouchr. I do have a cheap adapter (from Radio Shack) that works fine. I guess I will have to stick with that. I got a reply from Griffin and they cannot confirm if the SmartDeck will work with the Mazda system. I'll continue to look for other iPod integration options for my new Mazda5.

[Kid Red]

Mazda will (hopefully) be releasing their Apple certified iPod connection device soon for the 2007 models. It will work with 2006 models and is slated to cost $150. THe iPod will be disabled and you can use your steering wheel controls.

So hold off on any huge expensive foray into such a solution.

[We&2kids]

Mazda will (hopefully) be releasing their Apple certified iPod connection device soon for the 2007 models. It will work with 2006 models and is slated to cost $150. THe iPod will be disabled and you can use your steering wheel controls.

So hold off on any huge expensive foray into such a solution.

Thanks for the tip, Kid Red. I will certainly wait for that instead of doing something stupid again! By the way, where did you get that information? Just want to do some research myself.

[Kid Red]

mpvclub.com then go to premacy/mazda 5 forum.

[NY5GT]

I absolutely had to have my IPod work in my 5 but I did not want to deal with the hassle of an FM Transmitter. Also, the IPod connector for the 5 had just come out then but the reviews for it are terrible. I went with a tape deck as a way to bring IPod to life in my Mazda 5. Minus the cable which sticks out of the tape slot, the sound is good and everything works fine. I used a genuine Mazda tape player and had my dealer install it. Wasn't cheap but it's warrantied this way and looks completely integrated and flush. I'd recommend doing it this way at least until Mazda improves its IPod connector.

[spyderveloce]

Found this recently:

http://www.axxessinterface.com/default.aspx

There are 2 models for the Mazda 5 that work. Apparently for the Axxess XIA-I01 you have to buy a separate adapter but it allows you to use the steering wheel controls with the iPod. I personally am interested in the Axxess MZ-AUX-01 as it will be cheaper and not require any special adapters to work. I spoke with someone at Metra Electronics (the manufacturer) and they assure me that the Axxess MZ-AUX-01 is slated for manufacture in about 3 weeks. It has BOTH a power/audio port for the iPod AND a standard audio input on a nice little box that can be mounted out of sight and plugs directly into the back of the OEM stereo. I first saw these units for other vehicles at Circuit City a few days ago. They ran between $49.99 and $69.99.

[Snakestang65]

Found this recently:

http://www.axxessinterface.com/default.aspx

There are 2 models for the Mazda 5 that work. Apparently for the Axxess XIA-I01 you have to buy a separate adapter but it allows you to use the steering wheel controls with the iPod. I personally am interested in the Axxess MZ-AUX-01 as it will be cheaper and not require any special adapters to work. I spoke with someone at Metra Electronics (the manufacturer) and they assure me that the Axxess MZ-AUX-01 is slated for manufacture in about 3 weeks. It has BOTH a power/audio port for the iPod AND a standard audio input on a nice little box that can be mounted out of sight and plugs directly into the back of the OEM stereo. I first saw these units for other vehicles at Circuit City a few days ago. They ran between $49.99 and $69.99.


I was told that the Axxess will not display on the head unit for the Clarion radio which is the most common one in the 5. Be cautious before spending money on this option at this point. I have been told that they are still working on the display, but as of today (11/26/07) this does not work for the Clarion radio in the 5.

On a side note, the Auxmod works, but be prepared for 2 issues. One you will need to install a ground loop eleminator to remove a high frequency noise (about $16 at Radio Shack) and the other issue is that when the MD is selected, the display constanly shows "Tape >" (just annoying, but not really a problem except for my wife).

John

[fishbob]

I have been lurking and trying to get ideas about solving some issues I have and I come across this messgae string and thought maybe you might want to look at this as a solution to the MP3, Ipod, and USB Flash Drive.

The eBay item Number is 310018921867.

I just bought one and for $94.00 USD you can rock and roll or whatever using any of the devides I just listed.

If someone has already presented this solution please forgive the double post but I didn't do and exhaustive search.

Take care
fishbob

[bowmer7]

Thanks for the info Fishbob. Could you elaborate a little on the mp3 player. I have an '08 and I don't like the mp3 adapter they come with - earphone port doesn't produce very good sound. I think your item would produce digital quality. How was the install, sound quality, etc.? Thanks for the help.

Cheers, Craig

[fishbob]

I started out lurking aroun\d to see if there was anyone like me that wondered the things I did and as it turned out you all do.

I found this device on ebay at http://cgi.ebay.ch/MP3-Player-for-MAZDA-M6-M5-M3-MX5-RX8-CX7-MPV-Premacy_W0QQitemZ350013456363QQihZ022QQcategoryZ32 93QQcmdZViewItem It delivered in 3 days - fast.

I removed the unit as per the detailed instruction left here by others but before I got started I wanted to be sure to see if the unit worked ass advertised with good sound quality. It does!!!! In fact I bet by using the USB interface the iPod problems I have been hearing about will be gone. I went and bought a 4GB Cruizer drive and set the files up as the instrutions tell you too and I was in like flint.

Anyway here is what I started with and the device I received. My Mazda5 IS A 2007 Sport (pretty basic).

After I removed the face plate I decided I wanted my device in the unit where the cassette would go. I cut a piece of 1/4inch plexiglas to fit in to the face plate 11.8cm X 3.9cm then I sanded the original face plate down so that it would support the new face plate I was going to install.

After getting the face plate sized and the opening in the face plate for the device to slide through I put a piece of 3/16in firm foam type cusion with one sided sticky adhesive. You put this on over the face plate and cut it insde of the face plate so that it will be a tight fit when the device is slid through it. In that way it will conform to the units profile and look neater as an installation goes.

[fishbob]

After that is done the basis for the installation is almost complete except for stability. I took a steel strap used in construction and trimmed it so that it would support the unit from with in the unit.

Here is the underside when finished.

I attached the front plate and sanded plate using a common adheasive (Liquid Nails) and attached the bracket to the device using the screws that hold the cord into the device. Be careful when doing this the screws are light duty and your bracket should be counter sunk to ensure the deepest penetration of the screws.

I then after everything was almost together measured and used pop rivets to complete the bracket installation that would hold the unit in place making sure it would not move and would be stable for years to come.

Here is the final look

As for sound quality, it rocks and like I said because it uses the USB there should not be a reason for anyones iPod to not work and have the power too.

Hope this gives someone the moxy to take a chance and try the mos yourself. If wqorse comes to worse mount the thing in the glove box like a lot of people do. That would be a snap. As it was this was one good day of fabricating and having fun.

Good luck.

PS. If your interested I'd be more than willing to answer any questions you might have.

Fishbob

[fishbob]

This is the item I got on ebay sorry about the confusion;

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310018921867&ru=http://search.ebay.com:80/310018921867_W0QQfromZR41QQfviZ1

[mrd777]

Anybody got a line on a good radio for a Mazda6 Grand Touring Bose System 6-disk system? Someone replacing one with after market stuff - know a good mazda junk yard? A 2007 Grand touring must have been totaled some where. Send me any leads. Thanks, Don in Washington State(mswerd)(mswerd)
425-717-2037

[5zoom]

I am looking into the ipod kits for my 08 and wondered what pieces I need to buy. I know I could use the aux input, but thought it would be great to be able to control everything via stock head unit. I also wondered if this is a DIY job or something I should leave to a professional. I am not afraid to go behind the glove box(I changed the cabin filter in my 3 once). Is it plug and pray?

Also, when it works, can everything(selecting tracks, volume, folders...) be handled on the stock head unit?

Thanks

[Bennett5]

Hey everyone. I installed the GROM Ipod adapter http://www.gromaudio.com/ipod.html in our 2008 5 last weekend. The install went pretty well except for a few changes to the interior pcs on the '08 that change the HU removal. Just remember to take you're time and remove the cup holders and console on the '08's otherwise, it's the same as on earlier models. Once you get the HU out you'll have to unplug the existing connection on the radio. The problem is once you do this, you lose the bluetooth capability, if you have it. I want to maintain the bluetooth compatibility with my phone, so I've disconnected the GROM unit until a Y adapter is made. GROM was talking about having one in MAY so hopefully it won't be long now.
The GROM unit was $70 on EBAY, displayed the tracks on the display, but no song name or titles, or playlists description. Playlist organization is important to ge the most out the GROM unit. Sound is great, charges the ipod, keeps it out of site and in the glove, and lets you use the steering wheel controls to change songs.

[NS_Mazda5]

Does anyone know if the single CD stereo in the 07s are capable of reading RDS? Just bought an 07, and my stereo guy says that this: http://www.kenwoodusa.com/Car_Entertainment/eXcelon/CarPortal%E2%84%A2/KOS-A200 might be a good solution to my MP3 addition problems. I don't have and don't want an iPOD, I like my ZEN. Just got my 5 two days ago. And just starting researching this today. Any help is greatly appreciated.

[raspykart]

IPOD Discovery

We've been using our Nano 1gen in the 5 for some time and the biggest gripe we had was to go to the next song in a random fashion you have to hit random twice. Well I've been using it for commuting lately so I put my Ipod Touch 2gen in it, and low n behold somehow when you hit the next track button, it goes in a random fashion. Downside is it doesn't charge it, but I like this benefit way better. I have shuffle enabled on my touch typically so I dunno if thats what made it work or not... no matter what we did on the nano it would go to the next song in the list.

[Peloton]

Last weekend I installed the Mazda 5 iPod Integration Module in my 2009 5 Grand Touring for my generation 3 Nano. I decided to get the Mazda one since my 5 is still under warranty.

It came with instruction manuals on how to install it and operate it. I ordered it from here:

http://www.mazdaparts.org/mazda5-ipod.html

I got the kit for the Mazda 5 w/o Sirius Radio w/o Navigation for the 2008-2009 model years. I do have the 6-disc CD changer. Installation when okay, took me longer than the average installer since I don't do it much at all, but I figured it out. The hardest thing was figuring out the wiring since it's not straight through wiring due to the bluetooth.

The iPod sounds great. Its sound level is lower than the CD and radio. For example, level 20 on the CD/radio is about level 25 or so on the iPod. All operation is through the radio; the iPod controls are locked out. Using the DISP button, one can scroll through the Artist, Song, Album, etc. and it shows on the display (see pic). Mazda recommends that one uses Playlists to use the iPod and find things even though one can find them by scrolling through Artists, Albums, Songs, etc. but it can take a long time (not good while driving). I usually shuffle by albums but that is one thing it won't do. Guess I'll have to figure out how to do it by playlist. It will shuffle the other modes, like songs, by pressing RDM button (least I think so, haven't tried everything).

It did disconnect the AUX jack; something I was not aware of. However, I don't use it now with this module so I am not in a hurry about getting the part to reconnect it (C9F1-V6-261) since it's not cheap.

Update: I found out this will not recharge the generation 4 Nano. I plugged my wife's in and it will play music; it would just not recharge. My iPod is a generation 3 Nano. Turns out Apple changed the recharging from 12v to 5v from generation 3 to 4. I did find an adapter that can be plugged into the cable that changes the voltage:

http://www.scosche.com/products/sfID1/210/sfID2/326/sfID3//productID/1667

I ordered one so I report on how it works when I get it.

I received the Scousche Passport for the iPod this weekend and it works great; recharges the iPod like it's supposed to.

[DKaz]

Does anyone here know the power output - peak and RMS - for the stock stereo?

[robertlord484]

I am a bit of a technophobe, so I am hoping somebody can help me out with what is probably a ridiculously easy question.

Yesterday, I bought an iPod Touch (2nd generation). I want to be able to listen to it in my 2009 Mazda5 with the factory installed 6 disk CD changer radio. I see the jack for the auxillary input. I assume this plugin is what I will use, along with the "media" button on the stereo?

Is the proper cable to purchase something like this one, below?
http://store.itrimming.com/toth35mmmm01.html

Will this output in stereo, or am I on the wrong track here?

Thanks so much for helping an obvious newb!

[Heat]

...
Is the proper cable to purchase something like this one, below?
http://store.itrimming.com/toth35mmmm01.html
Yes, that's the right cable. Though six feet is extremely long, I use a one foot cable. Also, you can buy these cables pretty much anywhere, I bought my cable from a local Radio Shack store for $5.50. A three foot cable ran $6.50. The problem with a six foot cable is that you have to store the cable somewhere when you are not using it and that's a lot of cable.

There is also an iPod adapter which runs around $150 if I remember right, I think that would display the song information on the radio itself. Might even charge the iPod. Just make sure that it works with the iPod Touch before you buy it.

And of course you can always just put in a nice aftermarket head unit with built-in iPod connections, you can easily get one for $200 or less (as an example, look at the Alpine CDA-105). Yes, you would lose your CD changer, but CD changers are obsolete.

[Bonthron]

I'm looking at installing the Axxess solutions to iPod integration (http://retailer.installationexcellence.com/productfeatures.aspx?retailerid=1273&productid=9385&sid=9C1C3B1B-D814-4FEB-9EC5-C36303FDB78C&vehicleid=215482) in our "new to us" 2006 Mazda5. The problem is the manufacturer says it doesn't work with the Clarion made OEM headunits, and I'm wondering if I have one of these and if it's possible to tell without pulling the HU out of the dash? Ours has the MP3/6-disc in-dash changer.

Any help here would be appreciated. Also, anyone with experience with this device?

Thanks.

Chris

[Kats07mazda5]

Hi all I am new here, I have a new to me 2007 Mazda5 can you tell me where the aux input is, I cant find one.

[KBrian]

Unfortunately, Mazda did not equip the stock stereo system with an Aux input plug for the 07 model. You must find another path, such as an FM transmitter device, a new head unit with I-pod controls, or a dealer installed I-pod adapter cable.

Good luck.

[SGT_OKINAWA]

or a dealer installed I-pod adapter cable.

I do the agree dance with the KBrian on this one ;)

Peace!(rei)

[Kats07mazda5]

does the dealer one work better now? does it work with the iphone3gs

[canessa]

Ok, here's my first iPod update.

To get iPod sounds into the stereo, there are roughly three ways to go about it: FM transmitter, cassette tape adapter, or find a way to get an auxiliary input, which may be just a line-in or a dedicated iPod dock connector.

In this post I'm going to write about the easiest method for most people, the FM transmitter. This takes the iPod sound and transmits it on an FM frequency, and you then tune the car stereo to the right station to listen. There are a number of them out there, and they have the advantage that you can take them with you and use them in any other car, which is great if you're traveling and have a rental car.

The disadvantage is that sound quality can vary wildly. Some transmitters are better than others, but the main issue is finding a clear frequency to use. In my case, it's particularly difficult as the SF Bay Area is fairly crowded, and there are multiple broadcast areas: some stations broadcast from SF, some from the San Jose area I live closer to, and it's easy to take a short drive to the Santa Cruz area or the Easy Bay where there are yet more stations. One can get an acceptable frequency in one region, and then have it go out on you when you travel to another area.

Anyway, I'm using the Monster iCarPlay (http://www.monstercable.com/computer/productPageComputer.asp?pin=2084) (I've had this for awhile because my wife was using it on business trips) and it works fairly well for the moment. It goes into the accessory plug and I was able to hide the cable very well underneath the console then the cable comes up from the passengers side and I drop the cable into the console well when not in use. When I get into the car, I open the console, take the cable out, drop half the console to get the upper part which is a perfect size to hold the iPod, connect to the dock connector, and I can close the console at this point if I wish.

If the iPod is playing when the car is turned off, then the iPod goes into pause mode. Unfortunately, starting the car does not put the iPod into play, but it does 'activate it' if it had been in the off/sleep mode. It's not a bad system. I get in the car, hook it up, start the car, select a playlist, start playing, close the console, then do my release hand brake/shift/drive and leave things alone until I stop the car which pauses the iPod.

The disadvantage is that if I want to skip a track or do anything with the iPod I can't do it easily, as it's not mounted in any real visible spot and steering wheel/stereo controls of course can't do anything than adjust volume. If I'm at a stop light with a minute to spare I can grab the iPod and mess with it a moment before putting it down, but obviously you need to concentrate on driving, not messing with tunes. If you have a passenger in the front seat then that person can play DJ for you. :)

Overall I give this system 8 out of 10 for style -- you can't really tell there is a cable to connect as it's black, but sometimes the middle area that switches stations falls into the cup area, a 6 out of 10 for sound, which is great at times but gets some noise on occasion, and a 6 out of ten for usability as it works, but it's much easier to change stations or CD tracks than it is to switch things on the iPod.

Other FM transmitters people may want to consider include:

Kensington Digital FM Transmitter/Auto Charger (http://www.kensington.com/html/6402.html) -- similar to the Monster iCarPlay, some say it works a little better, some don't. It's white though so it won't blend in like the black Monster cable will.

AirPlay (http://www.xtrememac.com/adapters/airplay.shtml) -- a small device that hooks to the top of the iPod, doesn't charge it but also doesn't have a cable to hide either, and could be used to transmit to other stereos instead of 'just' a car -- although there are wall-socket to car plug adaptors out there if anyone wanted to use one of the previous transmitters elsewhere too.

There are reviews for all of these, and more, at "iLounge" a web site devoted to iPod issues and reviews and such.

http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/reviews/

The ipod dock is directly connected to the head unit via A/V cable and power by a 5v USB. Enjoy...!

[canessa]

http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat_id=3901&sku=26482

[Slickvic]

so i just took out a Sirius satellite radio out of a 2007 mazdaspeed 3. im trying to sell it.

i been doing some research and apparently the Sirius satellite radio for my particular year will only work on any mazda3 model (speed or non) of the year 2007 and 2006 so far. that is what the dealership conformed me. im not the best wit forms so i haven't found anything for any older years but they told me that it WAS changed for the years after 2007 model.

i wanted to know if anyone knu if this would work for any other type of years and maybe any other type of model? im super broke lol and i wanted to expand my options

but if anyone is interested in it.

they go brand new for $340 with all that you need. im selling it for 300 shipped...

if anyone is interested pm me

i live in Sunrise FL, (south fl) if anyone wants to do a pick up. thanks! (dance)

[Mazda5Lover]

Anyone know if a subwoofer can be installed in a 2008 Mazda 5? If so, where in the car is a good place for it? What subwoofer is good/compatible with it? And, does it involve too much modification?

[jimp]

Hey everyone. I installed the GROM Ipod adapter http://www.gromaudio.com/ipod.html in our 2008 5 last weekend. The install went pretty well except for a few changes to the interior pcs on the '08 that change the HU removal. Just remember to take you're time and remove the cup holders and console on the '08's otherwise, it's the same as on earlier models. Once you get the HU out you'll have to unplug the existing connection on the radio. The problem is once you do this, you lose the bluetooth capability, if you have it. I want to maintain the bluetooth compatibility with my phone, so I've disconnected the GROM unit until a Y adapter is made. GROM was talking about having one in MAY so hopefully it won't be long now.
The GROM unit was $70 on EBAY, displayed the tracks on the display, but no song name or titles, or playlists description. Playlist organization is important to ge the most out the GROM unit. Sound is great, charges the ipod, keeps it out of site and in the glove, and lets you use the steering wheel controls to change songs.

does anyone know what if any changes were made to the 09 oem HU in the 5. I have a 6cd change with the 6 speakers (2 tweets and 4 woofers in doors and rear cabin area. Just wondering if the grom unit noted above will work with my 09 OEM HU??

[dieseldriver]

Here's a pinout of the factory AUX jack on Mazda5::

RCA RIGHT Channel
Positive/+ or Center = PIN 3
Negative/- or Outside Shield = PIN 4

RCA LEFT Channel
Positive/+ or Center = PIN 5
Negative/- or Outside Shield = PIN 4

Semi - Permanent AUX Function Enable:
A simple mod of adding a jumper from PIN2 to PIN6 will alllow the radio to "see" a cable plugged into the AUX port even when there's no 3.5mm stereo cable plugged in. This opens up the possibility of installing multiple AUX ports using female RCA or 3.5mm stereo jacks elsewhere on the car for audio input. You can just scroll through modes and will always see an AUX mode on the radio display. When the switch inside the AUX port is in OPEN state, radio is sending about 3.25VDC to the PIN pairs 2 & 6. When the phono plug in connected, switch will close and zeros out the voltage or grounds it out which activates the AUX mode on the radio. You can probably add a SPST switch in-line to this jumper so that you can turn on/off the AUX function at-will as well.