MAM mid pipe user Q

[QCMSP]

I have install the MAM mid pipe this week-end. I like it but It's touching the body (sound like a ratle) when I go WOT. Any body have any idea to solve this probleme ???

[Striker187]

what's it rattling against? you may want to get some kartboy exhaust hanger bushings. you could always bend the hangers too.

[Lord_Zath]

Where's the sound comin from? If it's coming from beneath your feet, the midpipe is banging against the heat shield. Either pound the heat shield out so it's higher and wider or bend the bars on the exhaust so it rides a little lower...

If it's coming from the tail of the car, it's probably rubbing the bumper. Get some zip-ties or clamps and tie/clamp the hangers in place so the muffler doesn't sway from side-to-side.

[QCMSP]

It's not a heat shild sound. The mid pipe touch the ''cross fram'' . The pipe is too low.




Where's the sound comin from? If it's coming from beneath your feet, the midpipe is banging against the heat shield. Either pound the heat shield out so it's higher and wider or bend the bars on the exhaust so it rides a little lower...

If it's coming from the tail of the car, it's probably rubbing the bumper. Get some zip-ties or clamps and tie/clamp the hangers in place so the muffler doesn't sway from side-to-side.

[toucci]

I had to bend the hangers a bit and used hose clamps to compress the stock hangers to keep it from sagging. Later on kartboy hangers fixed the problem, but added vibration. I think the hose clamps worked the best :P

[Nutari]

thats a really common problem with the MAM midpipes

they rub the crossmember.. I had that problem too. Kartboy exhaust hangers kinda fix it.. wont rub AS bad.. still rubs..

you need to take it into an exhaust shop and have them bend the hangers

[QCMSP]

MAM mid pipe is piece of crap !! To solve the problem a I have to cut it and do another pipe with a small bend in it and keep the oem flange working b/c the flex is too far from the engine. The flex need to be as close as possible of the engine but IT's look like MAM don't know that. Each time the pipe touch the fram the exaust manifold have a hard time b/c it's straigh from the engine. Kartboy exhaust hangers probably fix the probleme of touching the cossmember but the exaust manifold still in problem. I don't need to broke my MSP manifold now.

[Striker187]

the flex section is fine where it is. i don't even have one on mine, just a front motor mount to keep things from moving about too much.

[ginta637]

On the MAM Midpipe, did you guys connect the 02 sensor? If you did where, and how did you guys do it. Thankx

[Notorious]

Mine fitted like absolute crap when I first got it. SPD Racing was able to cut it apart and re-weld it correctly.

[spotthedogg]

mine hit the crossmember, then I added Kartboy hangers, then my tip melted my bumper at the track. Vibrates quite a bit too, it also has a leak in the weld ahead of the flex pipe (flame2)

[yashooa]

Damn, now I don't feel so bad about my 50$ ghetto mid-pipe.
It vibrates at 1800 and 3800RPM but it is definitely a heat shield noise.
Glad I didn't waste 139$ on the MAM because I was going to buy one to get rid of this noise.

[grcuadros]

i just ordered a MAM downpipe mild steel catted...what can i expect when i go to install it? is it going to be damaging the car at all if its rubbing against something? am i gonna need to change something or take it somewhere to get fixed? thanks alot.

[QCMSP]

mine is cat less. I don't know how the pipe with cat fit but I have a good Idea ...think about a trip to a local muffler shop to solve the some prob. To avoid to break youre exaust manif keep the join with spring working (OEM one )

[Nutari]

mine hit the crossmember, then I added Kartboy hangers, then my tip melted my bumper at the track. Vibrates quite a bit too, it also has a leak in the weld ahead of the flex pipe (flame2)
wow.. I had all those same problems.. cept the melted bumper thing.

[QCMSP]

I'm happy to see.... I'm not the only one




Mine fitted like absolute crap when I first got it. SPD Racing was able to cut it apart and re-weld it correctly.

[JCell]

makin me twice about buyin the midpie


at least until they fix this probelm

[QCMSP]

I don't know if somebody have told MAM about that ???

[JCell]

i'm sure they'll see this thread very soon

[vindication]

waiting to see if Beau sees this. someone pm him yet? I was thinking about getting it

[SIBalla23]

I have the mam midpipe on my 02 es protege. I used the kartboy hangers and it stopped the pipe from moving but part of the cat sat on the crossmember bar. I used washers to space the crossmember from the rest of the car. It helped a little that I was able to get a feeler gauge between the cat and the bar. After that I used zipties. Three zipties on each metal hanger on the midpipe and tied it to a bar thats above the cat, might be the front swaybar, I forget, but if your under the car you will see what I mean. The zipties raised the cat about an inch from the crossmember. As your using the zipties, push up on the midpipe as your tieing them. I have no rattles anymore. Everything is perfect. I hope this helps everyone out. Any questions, feel free to ask and I'll help if I can.

[Nutari]

I have the mam midpipe on my 02 es protege. I used the kartboy hangers and it stopped the pipe from moving but part of the cat sat on the crossmember bar. I used washers to space the crossmember from the rest of the car. It helped a little that I was able to get a feeler gauge between the cat and the bar. After that I used zipties. Three zipties on each metal hanger on the midpipe and tied it to a bar thats above the cat, might be the front swaybar, I forget, but if your under the car you will see what I mean. The zipties raised the cat about an inch from the crossmember. As your using the zipties, push up on the midpipe as your tieing them. I have no rattles anymore. Everything is perfect. I hope this helps everyone out. Any questions, feel free to ask and I'll help if I can.

hmm.. plastic zipties near 500 degree exhaust sounds bad.

[JCell]

yeah, won't teh zip tes melt?

[SIBalla23]

I had it on for 500miles with no problems. You got to remember, the zipties are on the metal hangers sticking out from the midpipe, so its not actually on the pipe itself.

[Fede_italiano]

guess no MAM midpipe for me.

We need something plug and play.

If we have to go a muffler shop we could as well do a custom job.

bye

[SIBalla23]

Yea its a little annoying but the gains are worth it.

[QCMSP]

But it's not suppose to be so difficult to install it without the funny noize at WOT. It'S made for mazda protege not a another car. YOu can keep the pipe away from the crossmember but if youre cat back is stiff (with kartboy) and your engine mount is soft ( oem one ) all the manifol and j pipe (it fixed on the engine) have to be and keep connect to the cat back. Remerber one is stiff, hard to move and the other part is moving a lot. The flex join is stiff and it's too far away from the engine. Remerber the law of the lever (???) more the lever is long more you can lift a higher weith. It'S the same thing with the mam mid pipe. You have a longer pipe between the engine and the flex . Each time the pipe touch the crossmember .. your manifold or j pipe can broke. It's not good.

I don't know if you have understand all I said b/c I don't speak english very well. If you have any question ask me.

Thanks

[Familia323]

^are you speaking of leverage, when you say law of the lever?




so on this note.. anyone want to buy my stainless steel catless MAM midpipe with an 02 bung never installed, for 80 dollars? comes with the bolts and gastket. :) I'm trying to get an RX7 so I dont really want to mess with the protege anymore.

[Lord_Zath]

hmm... does it have the hi-flow cat?

[QCMSP]

^are you speaking of leverage, when you say law of the lever?.

You probably right. I don't know the right word in english . Thanks

[JCell]

intersted in the midpipe, pics?

[Notorious]

Beau is aware of it. Apparently he made a second generation pipe that was suppose to fit better. I can't speak intelligently on it though, since I never seen it or knows anyone who has it.


makin me twice about buyin the midpie


at least until they fix this probelm

[ginta637]

I got my SS MAM Mid Pipe a few days ago. I talked to Beau about it. He said he had to reweld the flanges on the pipes cause they were not correct. I have not installed it yet because it does not come with anywhere to place the o2 sensor, but from its looks it looks good. If anyone wants a pic let me know and I can post them.

[yashooa]

Wait, these things don't come with O2 bungs?

[Notorious]

Mine has it? SS with cat.

[ginta637]

Last time I checked mine did not have an o2 bung. I just figured it didn't come with one and that I would have to find someoen to weld it on for me. =/

[SIBalla23]

I think if you wanted a wideband o2 bung, that was 10 bucks extra.

[ginta637]

I see... =/ I guess I forgot to mention that when I placed my order.
So does anyone know where I can get a bung from?

[SIBalla23]

Just go to an exhaust shop by you and bring the midpipe. Ask to have a bung welded onto the pipe. Shouldn't cost to much.

[Lord_Zath]

most local exhaust shops can weld one on for you for like $20...

[ginta637]

thanx for the info, but are all bungs the same size? or should I take the o2 sensor off and bring that with me as well?

[QCMSP]

It's supose to be ''bolt on'' , the 2nd o2 sensor need to be ''plug'' somewer. I have the the bung already weld on the pipe.


I think if you wanted a wideband o2 bung, that was 10 bucks extra.

[ginta637]

on your pipe is the o2 bung between the cat and the flex pipe? or is it after the cat?

thanx

[Mr. Win]

so this is what it would look like if you put a bunch of idiots in a thread and had them talk about something...

bend the hangers you idiots its not that tough.

[Nutari]

so this is what it would look like if you put a bunch of idiots in a thread and had them talk about something...

bend the hangers you idiots its not that tough.
I think I said that a few dozen posts back...

[Nutari]

so this is what it would look like if you put a bunch of idiots in a thread and had them talk about something...

bend the hangers you idiots its not that tough.
yup.. post 6


thats a really common problem with the MAM midpipes

they rub the crossmember.. I had that problem too. Kartboy exhaust hangers kinda fix it.. wont rub AS bad.. still rubs..

you need to take it into an exhaust shop and have them bend the hangers

[Mr. Win]

shhh thats the easy answer... must bitch about everything.

I love how everyones a critic but i dont see them making thier own pipes. Better yet call wagner i hear he makes a great midpipe (pow)

[QCMSP]

I hate pepeol who don't know what we talking about and don't read all the tread before posting a stupid awswer. Bending the hanger don't resolve the proplem the flex join is before the crossmember and the hangers if I bend the hangers like you sed I just put more unwnated load on the exaust manif...... IT's like trying to lift the engine....I'm wondering who is the idot now.....



so this is what it would look like if you put a bunch of idiots in a thread and had them talk about something...

bend the hangers you idiots its not that tough.

[Mr. Win]

i guess your right buddy... its not like i have the mid-pipe and it solved my problem.

[Notorious]

Uhhh no. Bending the hangar didn't help. The problem is the pipe was fucked up. We wouldn't have hacked it to shit and then put it back together if the hangar was the problem.




so this is what it would look like if you put a bunch of idiots in a thread and had them talk about something...

bend the hangers you idiots its not that tough.

[Mr. Win]

ok then the point of this thread? Sounds like a faulty pipe... Honestly lets see some pics.

[QCMSP]

As soon as posible I will take picture of the modif a I have do to the mid pipe to avoid touching the crossmember.

[Notorious]

Ok know-it-all. Call SPD Racing, ask for Seth, and explain it to him the problem actually the hangars. (760)787-5759. I'm not going to sit here and argue with the clueless.




ok then the point of this thread? Sounds like a faulty pipe... Honestly lets see some pics.

[Mr. Win]

SPD sucks... hes been talking shit about the mid-pipe for ages.

[Captain KRM P5]

SPD is no more from everything i have read/heard

[Mr. Win]

id hope so...

[Notorious]

You heard wrong. I was just there last week. They just do custom fabrications now and no more parts.


SPD is no more from everything i have read/heard

[Notorious]

Ahh, and of course we all defer to you all knowing wisdom, especially when it comes to midpipes.

What can I say, the first set of midpipes was garbage. Beau knew there was a problem and he stated that he added a flex pipe to alleviate the problem. Whether it works or not, I don't know. I don't have a second generation pipe.


SPD sucks... hes been talking shit about the mid-pipe for ages.

[Mental Addiction]

I just read this thread for the first time.
First, Midpipes do not come with O2 bungs. If you want one you need to say so when ordering. Reason being is 70% of midpipe orders are from NA proteges. The flex joint is put near the back because the outer diameter is to much to clear the crossmember.
As for the leverage comment, our motors torque forward and aft.
Midpipes hit the crossmember for several reasons. Saggy exhaust hangers or a bad motor mount. We all know our motor mounts suck and typically are shot within 15K miles.
If your midpipe hits, bend the hangers. It takes longer to get on the forum and type out your complaint than if you bent the hangers. Or by calling me I can help out.
As for SPD fixing your midpipe, they never even paid me for there orders. so they where dealers for less than a month..Also, they only bought 3 and they where 1-2 months before you bought yours. By the pictures I seen of your setup, it didn't look like my first Gen Midpipes.. Maybe it was one of there attempts to produce one. My first gen Midpipes did not have a flex joint and the hangers where upside down.. Yours has a flex and the hangers where different. Also, they sold it to you for like $75 or something like that if I remember, they pay more as a dealer than that.

[RyanJayG]

I remember when you were going through all that BS with SPD... by the way you ever get paid or the things you ordered?

[Nutari]

I just read this thread for the first time.
First, Midpipes do not come with O2 bungs. If you want one you need to say so when ordering. Reason being is 70% of midpipe orders are from NA proteges.



*coughs* mine came with one and I never even mentioned wanting an extra o2 bung.. had to go and buy a 18mm oil drain plug.

[RyanJayG]

did you get it in the original group buy?

[robp5t]

I got my mid pipe from Beau about a month ago fits fine doesnt hit any thing and I have stock hangers in the front but I do have awr mounts front and rear

[Notorious]

I'm positive you are mistaking me for someone else. Possibly the guy that had the yellow msp, mine is black. Mine does not have a flex joint and it does have a bung for the o2 sensor. I was part of the first gen buy. I don't have any details on what deal you and SPD had, but at the time I wanted a mild steel with no cat. You didn't have one at the time, but you were kind enough to extend the same price for a stainless steel pipe with a cat. The issue wasn't with my pipe hitting the crossmember, but rather that it just did not bolt up correctly. The flange looked like it was angled in correctly. Regardless, when we spoke over the phone, you stated that the next generation pipes would have this flex joint and would fix the fitment problem and the problem has been addressed for future orders. That was good enough for me.

As for SPD not paying your for the pipes, that needs to be taken up with them. I hope a resolution can be found.


I just read this thread for the first time.
First, Midpipes do not come with O2 bungs. If you want one you need to say so when ordering. Reason being is 70% of midpipe orders are from NA proteges. The flex joint is put near the back because the outer diameter is to much to clear the crossmember.
As for the leverage comment, our motors torque forward and aft.
Midpipes hit the crossmember for several reasons. Saggy exhaust hangers or a bad motor mount. We all know our motor mounts suck and typically are shot within 15K miles.
If your midpipe hits, bend the hangers. It takes longer to get on the forum and type out your complaint than if you bent the hangers. Or by calling me I can help out.
As for SPD fixing your midpipe, they never even paid me for there orders. so they where dealers for less than a month..Also, they only bought 3 and they where 1-2 months before you bought yours. By the pictures I seen of your setup, it didn't look like my first Gen Midpipes.. Maybe it was one of there attempts to produce one. My first gen Midpipes did not have a flex joint and the hangers where upside down.. Yours has a flex and the hangers where different. Also, they sold it to you for like $75 or something like that if I remember, they pay more as a dealer than that.

[Mental Addiction]

*coughs* mine came with one and I never even mentioned wanting an extra o2 bung.. had to go and buy a 18mm oil drain plug.

You where one of the first 2nd Gen midpipes. Those came with O2 bungs. NA guys complainted when they got an O2 bung.. This is why we do not include them unless asked for. It's no extra charge. We just need to know of you want one.