GI: OBX header

[steve_protege]

I HAVE MORE GOOD NEWS!!!

The OBX header for the 1.6l is supposed to be released some time this week. Both Tuning Depot.com and Protegegarage.com have said they will carry the header and have it available for sale. However, Ken of Protegegarage.com said that he will have the better deal on the header and let us know when he has it in stock. Also, if we can find 10 people serious about buying this header (the minimum number OBX wants before setting up a GB) then he would consider saving us even more money and doing a GB here. So this can be a GI thread for the header as well.

Only serious buyers please when putting name on list!!! You all can view www.protegegarage.com (http://www.protegegarage.com/) , for Ken's pricing. I'll continue talking with him to get specifics about a POSSIBLE GB if we get the needed number of people. I'll check this thread often and keep everyone updated. I'll start the list and we'l go from there!!


OBX Racing SS header for the 1.6 liter ZM-DE Protege sedan

1) Steve_protege (00 Protege) (Interested)

[MIA protege]

heres a chance for something to be made for the 1.6L guys ... lets see

[steve_protege]

The header is being released this week. I have a number for Tuning Depot to ask about special internet pricing and discounts.

[Captain KRM P5]

I have spoken with OBX today and reserved the first run of these headers before TD could :D competition is a bitch aint it, lol

I will do a GB if I can get 10 people who are interested in either the 1.6 or 2.0 header, so we can have five of each for example rather than just 10 of one kind.

[steve_protege]

I have spoken with OBX today and reserved the first run of these headers before TD could :D competition is a bitch aint it, lol

I will do a GB if I can get 10 people who are interested in either the 1.6 or 2.0 header, so we can have five of each for example rather than just 10 of one kind.

SWEET!!! KEN, YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!

Well, there you go people. Ken has jumped aboard for this GB. Lets show em we can get the required # of people. I am the first in line and ready for payment!!!

[Lord_Zath]

I have spoken with OBX today and reserved the first run of these headers before TD could :D competition is a bitch aint it, lol

I will do a GB if I can get 10 people who are interested in either the 1.6 or 2.0 header, so we can have five of each for example rather than just 10 of one kind.

you fight durrrty

[steve_protege]

Bump for any new (and serious) buyers!!! C'mon peoples!!!

[quagmire]

I would be defiently down for this.. a 1.6l header actually issued.. put me down

[steve_protege]

I would be defiently down for this.. a 1.6l header actually issued.. put me down

Alright, great!! Just reply to the first message and add your name to the list!

[jster28]

interested but depending on the price. And you sure you guy are gonna get them in, these obx 1.6 header where a myth before.

[Sic03Mazda]

Im also interested in getting one for my 2.0 , but I want it with the whole package (Pending on price as well)

header and CEL eliminator

curious to know if you would have to weld an o2 bung on it??

[steve_protege]

GREAT!!! Put the names on the list. Ken will fill us all in with the details. I e-mailed OBX Racing myself and got the response from them. They told me they are finally going to be released the first week of June. Ken has managed to get his hands on the first batch of headers for us. As long as we get at least 10 people (for either 1.6 or 2.0) then he will be able to get us a great price on them. So, lets fill up the list!!

[Captain KRM P5]

Im also interested in getting one for my 2.0 , but I want it with the whole package (Pending on price as well)

header and CEL eliminator

curious to know if you would have to weld an o2 bung on it??

no welding, two bungs are on it already


interested but depending on the price. And you sure you guy are gonna get them in, these obx 1.6 header where a myth before.

price will be 209 shipped in the lower 48 states for these


you fight durrrty

competition is a bitch :D

[Sic03Mazda]

OBX Racing SS header for the 1.6 liter ZM-DE Protege sedan

1) Steve_protege (00 Protege) (Interested)
2) Sic03Mazda (03 Protege 2.0L) ($$$ in hand and ready to send)

[TampaSport20]

OBX Racing SS header for the 1.6 liter ZM-DE Protege sedan

1) Steve_protege (00 Protege) (Interested)
2) Sic03Mazda (03 Protege 2.0L) ($$$ in hand and ready to send)
3)Tampasport20(00 Protege 1.6L)



added my name, but I'd like to see pics of the product before paying

[Lord_Zath]

Im also interested in getting one for my 2.0 , but I want it with the whole package (Pending on price as well)

header and CEL eliminator

curious to know if you would have to weld an o2 bung on it??

I'd recommend you do the non-fouler fix. It's pretty simple. Purchase two spark plug non-foulers, drill out one of them with a 1/2 inch drillbit, and screw them all together. This is for the 2nd o2 sensor located at the bottom of the header. It'll go o2 sensor -> nonfouler (drilled out) -> nonfouler (non-drilled) -> header.

Great fix, costs about $5 to do. Search for thread titled "testing new NO CEL method on catless cars.

[jster28]

is this for stainless only? is the ceramic coated one available as well?

[Lord_Zath]

stainless only. You can always send yours in to coated though. Try jet-hot for example. I think it's www.jet-hot.com

[Captain KRM P5]

is this for stainless only? is the ceramic coated one available as well?

OBX charges alot more for a ceramic coated version. like steve suggested, jet-hot is the way to go on this

[HI-RES]

1) Steve_protege (00 Protege) (Interested)
2) Sic03Mazda (03 Protege 2.0L) ($$$ in hand and ready to send)
3) Tampasport20 (00 Protege 1.6L)
4) HI-RES (00 Protege 1.6L)




Can you confirm if you will ship these overseas? Australia postcode 4068.
Need total cost inc USPS.
CANNOT be fedex/air freight because it is way too costly (incurs a myraid of taxes & customs obligations).

Cheers

[quagmire]

1) Steve_protege (00 Protege) (Interested)
2) Sic03Mazda (03 Protege 2.0L) ($$$ in hand and ready to send)
3) Tampasport20 (00 Protege 1.6L)
4) HI-RES (00 Protege 1.6L)
5) quagmire (00 Protege 1.6L)

I am in Canada, and would like to know if I could get shipping here. Also is this going to directly bolt on or do I have to use a 'crowbar' to get the mountings to fit?

[Captain KRM P5]

1) Steve_protege (00 Protege) (Interested)
2) Sic03Mazda (03 Protege 2.0L) ($$$ in hand and ready to send)
3) Tampasport20 (00 Protege 1.6L)
4) HI-RES (00 Protege 1.6L)
5) quagmire (00 Protege 1.6L)

I am in Canada, and would like to know if I could get shipping here. Also is this going to directly bolt on or do I have to use a 'crowbar' to get the mountings to fit?

i have never needed a crowbar to fit these headers on a car, honestly. just fit the EGR stuff before mating it to the head. i will ship to Canada for $19 extra


1) Steve_protege (00 Protege) (Interested)
2) Sic03Mazda (03 Protege 2.0L) ($$$ in hand and ready to send)
3) Tampasport20 (00 Protege 1.6L)
4) HI-RES (00 Protege 1.6L)




Can you confirm if you will ship these overseas? Australia postcode 4068.
Need total cost inc USPS.
CANNOT be fedex/air freight because it is way too costly (incurs a myraid of taxes & customs obligations).

Cheers

i will ship to Australia but it will cost $35 in shipping even with USPS

[Lord_Zath]

You might have some issues w/the EGR valve. Do a search for OBX header and EGR valve. You should see some advice. I would recommend you gently screw in the EGR valve first, then push the header onto the engine block and screw in the bolts on the engine block. Then tighten the EGR valve, then tighten the engine block bolts.

This is after you've done the lower spring bolts btw.

A crowbar might be handy, but just be careful. tyusha can tell you all about that (or search for his thread).

[HI-RES]

i will ship to Australia but it will cost $35 in shipping even with USPS

DONE! That is a good price, trust me! (headbang)

[jster28]

1) Steve_protege (00 Protege) (Interested)
2) Sic03Mazda (03 Protege 2.0L) ($$$ in hand and ready to send)
3) Tampasport20 (00 Protege 1.6L)
4) HI-RES (00 Protege 1.6L)
5) quagmire (00 Protege 1.6L)
6) jster28 (00 Protege 1.6L)

[Captain KRM P5]

1) Steve_protege (00 Protege) (Interested)
2) Sic03Mazda (03 Protege 2.0L) ($$$ in hand and ready to send)
3) Tampasport20 (00 Protege 1.6L)
4) HI-RES (00 Protege 1.6L)
5) quagmire (00 Protege 1.6L)
6) jster28 (00 Protege 1.6L)

i need some more people to pull this off :)

[quagmire]

Captain...How soon you think your going to recieve this part?

[Sic03Mazda]

I'd recommend you do the non-fouler fix. It's pretty simple. Purchase two spark plug non-foulers, drill out one of them with a 1/2 inch drillbit, and screw them all together. This is for the 2nd o2 sensor located at the bottom of the header. It'll go o2 sensor -> nonfouler (drilled out) -> nonfouler (non-drilled) -> header.

Great fix, costs about $5 to do. Search for thread titled "testing new NO CEL method on catless cars.


Will Do!! Thanks for the info !!!

[steve_protege]

Alright alright!!! 4 more people. Lets get this done. As soon as we have the required amount, this GB can go on and monies can be sent. I am so ready to get this header!! Spread the word all....

[dcbeggs]

This is probably a question that has been asked many times before but, when going to an after-market header, does the CEL always come on? Or are the O2 censor locations still relatively close to stock so they read correctly?

[Captain KRM P5]

This is probably a question that has been asked many times before but, when going to an after-market header, does the CEL always come on? Or are the O2 censor locations still relatively close to stock so they read correctly?

you need a spark plug non fouler or mil eliminator to keep from having a CEL

[Lord_Zath]

You'll need something to "trick" the second o2 sensor into believing everything's fine.

MIL eliminator requires soldering, costs a couple bucks.

Mon-fouler requires some drilling, costs a cuple bucks more.

I have non-fouler fix on, and no problems so far (~1,500 miles).

Search for either, read up, choose one.

The reason it won't read correctly is a header removes the first catalytic converter, so the readings the o2 is getting aren't what it thinks it's supposed to be.

[dcbeggs]

Ok, doesn't sound like a hard fix by any means, so I suppose that's good. Has anyone had any problems with the non-fouler?

[HI-RES]

Bump!

[TampaSport20]

You'll need something to "trick" the second o2 sensor into believing everything's fine.

MIL eliminator requires soldering, costs a couple bucks.

Mon-fouler requires some drilling, costs a cuple bucks more.

I have non-fouler fix on, and no problems so far (~1,500 miles).

Search for either, read up, choose one.

The reason it won't read correctly is a header removes the first catalytic converter, so the readings the o2 is getting aren't what it thinks it's supposed to be.


Shouldnt be a problem for 1.6er's we don't have the "pre-cat", only the single one

[Lord_Zath]

Really? Didn't know that! Game on!

[Captain KRM P5]

Ok, doesn't sound like a hard fix by any means, so I suppose that's good. Has anyone had any problems with the non-fouler?

none that i know of

*BUMP*

[J dragon]

I just want to Add that Ken will never steer you wrong people. I recently brought an OBX header from off of his site for $239...you guys are getting a better deal Jump on this.

I used the non-fouler trick so far so good...

[Lord_Zath]

Haven't heard of anyone having problems w/the nonfouler trick yet. There are a couple people who have had problems w/the MIL eliminator because they purchased the wrong type of resistor...

[Shane5425]

1) Steve_protege (00 Protege) (Interested)
2) Sic03Mazda (03 Protege 2.0L) ($$$ in hand and ready to send)
3) Tampasport20 (00 Protege 1.6L)
4) HI-RES (00 Protege 1.6L)
5) quagmire (00 Protege 1.6L)
6) jster28 (00 Protege 1.6L)
7) shanemazda2000p (00 protege 1.6l) interested if price isnt tooo steep

[steve_protege]

Alright all! Ive spread the word to the other forums and hopefully we'll get some buyers from there. We're so close to getting this done, I can smell the HP increases!!! Lets keep it going guys!!

[specialk111]

Count me in! (cool)

[Shane5425]

1) Steve_protege (00 Protege) (Interested)
2) Sic03Mazda (03 Protege 2.0L) ($$$ in hand and ready to send)
3) Tampasport20 (00 Protege 1.6L)
4) HI-RES (00 Protege 1.6L)
5) quagmire (00 Protege 1.6L)
6) jster28 (00 Protege 1.6L)
7) shanemazda2000p (00 protege 1.6l) interested if price isnt tooo steep
8)specialk111

[Shane5425]

once we get 10 people we are gonna do a GB?? or what?

[steve_protege]

once we get 10 people we are gonna do a GB?? or what?


Yeah, thats how it will work. Right now this is only a General Interest thread. As soon as we get 10 serious buyers, then the price of the headers (for the 1.6 and 1.8/2.0) will drop to two hundred and some odd dollars plus shipping. If we don't meet the minimum 10 buyers, then this is just a thread saying that 8 or 9 people want the OBX header for 243.00 plus shipping. Thats why we have to get the extra 2 people to help us save 40 or so dollars.

[quagmire]

2 more sign up....i need this shieat!

[Shane5425]

Yeah, thats how it will work. Right now this is only a General Interest thread. As soon as we get 10 serious buyers, then the price of the headers (for the 1.6 and 1.8/2.0) will drop to two hundred and some odd dollars plus shipping. If we don't meet the minimum 10 buyers, then this is just a thread saying that 8 or 9 people want the OBX header for 243.00 plus shipping. Thats why we have to get the extra 2 people to help us save 40 or so dollars.

ahh, i see, ill have the money hopefully in 4 days, once my lcd tv sells on ebay, i will have enough..

[Shane5425]

1) Steve_protege (00 Protege) (Interested)
2) Sic03Mazda (03 Protege 2.0L) ($$$ in hand and ready to send)
3) Tampasport20 (00 Protege 1.6L)
4) HI-RES (00 Protege 1.6L)
5) quagmire (00 Protege 1.6L)
6) jster28 (00 Protege 1.6L)
7) shanemazda2000p (00 protege 1.6l) interested if price isnt tooo steep
8)specialk111
9)crashed (2.0)

[Lord_Zath]

I'm trying to help you guys out, too, by spreading the word. This is definitely a great modification for a great price.

[Shane5425]

thanx, lord zath, we just need one more for the 10th place, but more the better..

[Shane5425]

BUMPY BUMP BUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

steve, are they released yet?

[Captain KRM P5]

bump - need a 10th person

[Shane5425]

captian, what will be the final price with 10?

edit, nevermind, 209 shipped..

[Shane5425]

Captian, why not see if you can get a mod to move this to the 3rd gen for sale section , since it is for th 2.0l also..

[steve_protege]

BUMPY BUMP BUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

steve, are they released yet?

They are supposed to be. Dave told me the 1st week of June. Ken ordered the first batch of headers so you probably should ask him to see if he has received his order yet.

[mazpro]

when are these suppoused to be released?

[Shane5425]

this week from what obx said and ken, ken has the first set ordered

and u cant beat 209 shipped, compaired to 249 plus shipping

[mazpro]

cool, but I can't get the money this week. that is a great price.

[Shane5425]

keep checkin back , it might not go threw till next week

[mazpro]

will do.

[mazpro]

1) Steve_protege (00 Protege) (Interested)
2) Sic03Mazda (03 Protege 2.0L) ($$$ in hand and ready to send)
3) Tampasport20 (00 Protege 1.6L)
4) HI-RES (00 Protege 1.6L)
5) quagmire (00 Protege 1.6L)
6) jster28 (00 Protege 1.6L)
7) shanemazda2000p (00 protege 1.6l) interested if price isnt tooo steep
8)specialk111
9)crashed (2.0)
10)Mazpro (00 protege 1.6L) interested but have money next week.

[Captain KRM P5]

i will give OBX a call and if all is well i will make a new thread in the 3rd gen section

[TampaSport20]

please link it here, thanks !!!

[nadim]

[QUOTE=mazpro]1) Steve_protege (00 Protege) (Interested)
2) Sic03Mazda (03 Protege 2.0L) ($$$ in hand and ready to send)
3) Tampasport20 (00 Protege 1.6L)
4) HI-RES (00 Protege 1.6L)
5) quagmire (00 Protege 1.6L)
6) jster28 (00 Protege 1.6L)
7) shanemazda2000p (00 protege 1.6l) interested if price isnt tooo steep
8)specialk111
9)crashed (2.0)
10)Mazpro (00 protege 1.6L) interested but have money next week.
11)Dr_banano(02 protege 1.6L)

[Shane5425]

1) Steve_protege (00 Protege) (Interested)
2) Sic03Mazda (03 Protege 2.0L) ($$$ in hand and ready to send)
3) Tampasport20 (00 Protege 1.6L)
4) HI-RES (00 Protege 1.6L)
5) quagmire (00 Protege 1.6L)
6) jster28 (00 Protege 1.6L)
7) shanemazda2000p (00 protege 1.6l) interested
8)specialk111 What engine??
9)crashed (2.0)
10)Mazpro (00 protege 1.6L) interested but have money next week.
11)Dr_banano(02 protege 1.6L)

[mazpro]

1) Steve_protege (00 Protege) (Interested)
2) Sic03Mazda (03 Protege 2.0L) ($$$ in hand and ready to send)
3) Tampasport20 (00 Protege 1.6L)
4) HI-RES (00 Protege 1.6L)
5) quagmire (00 Protege 1.6L)
6) jster28 (00 Protege 1.6L)
7) shanemazda2000p (00 protege 1.6l) interested
8)specialk111 (00 Protege 1.6L)
9)crashed (2.0)
10)Mazpro (00 protege 1.6L) interested but have money 2 weeks.
11)Dr_banano(02 protege 1.6L)

[specialk111]

00 Pro - 1.6

[Shane5425]

Captian, Any update with OBX

[steve_protege]

Well well, we did it!! Thank you all for making this happen. Thank you Ken for giving us guys a chance and setting up this GB for us. Im glad to see it happen and I will be even happier once this goes through!!


Two BIG(headbang) (headbang) to you!!

[Shane5425]

yeah 11 guys too, so that should be 208 not 209 lol..

[steve_protege]

I agree!!!




yeah 11 guys too, so that should be 208 not 209 lol..

[Shane5425]

so whats the word ken?

[quagmire]

What next for this GB? ......

[Shane5425]

waiting for ken to get back to us, he called obx yesterday

[Captain KRM P5]

more info tomorrow...

[Shane5425]

woo hooo!!!

[Captain KRM P5]

I called today and they do not have these boxed up just yet. I have never heard of any Dave at OBX. Peter and Tommy are the main sales reps over there and the ones I always deal with on Mazda headers. Lets not jump the shark here, people - patience. That said, go ahead and sign up.

[Shane5425]

kool, great news, ill have the money ready to send by monday or tuesday ..

[Lord_Zath]

yay for another successful header GB!

[HI-RES]

nice. ken can i pay by credit card as banking with foreign currencies is a bit of a pain. cheers

[steve_protege]

I called today and they do not have these boxed up just yet. I have never heard of any Dave at OBX. Peter and Tommy are the main sales reps over there and the ones I always deal with on Mazda headers. Lets not jump the shark here, people - patience. That said, go ahead and sign up.


Dave was just the guy I e-mailed at OBX Racing Sports. I got the e-mail from him telling me to contact the guys at Tuning Depot. Dave only sells the headers wholesale so thats why he sent me to those two. They are the ones who sell to the public.

Thanks Ken for running this GB. I hope I helped change your views about header GBs in the future. I would hate for anyone to miss out here and not be able to get this at a later time.

[HI-RES]

guys does anyone know what size the downpipe outlet is from this header????

i want to use 2" pipe all the way through but worried might be 2.25"

[Shane5425]

not sure, let me see if i can find out


Ken, when are u expecting them to be ready to ship to you?

[Bala]

Do these headers still come with a "Badge" welded on between the #2 and #3 pipe?

[crashed]

Who and how do we pay for the GB?

[Shane5425]

Who and how do we pay for the GB?

ken is workin with obx right now, they are not done yet, when they are ken will let us know and how to pay..

[Captain KRM P5]

update as of the weekend - obx did not return my calls on friday so it means i need to jump on them tomorrow and get some data ffrom them. i will keep everyone posted.

i am not taking payments until i know everything from them.

[Lord_Zath]

Do these headers still come with a "Badge" welded on between the #2 and #3 pipe?

I don't believe they do. Even if they did, I've heard that they eventually fall off due to the heat on stupid little welds.

[Lord_Zath]

guys does anyone know what size the downpipe outlet is from this header????

i want to use 2" pipe all the way through but worried might be 2.25"

Why 2"? Most aftermarket exhausts, Axelback or cat-back, are 2.25, 2.5, or 3...

[HI-RES]

2.25 for a 1.6ltr is an overkill, 2" mandrel is enough. Dont want to lose any low end torque (its bad enough already).

yeah most exhausts are that size (dont know about 3 though) but are they specifically designed for the 1.6? or are they for the 1.8 & 2.0? And just because they sell them at size X" doesnt mean its the most efficient for what setup you have.


but anyway if turns out to be 2.25, i'll get a crush bent system instead of mandrel I guess. Just means I have to sell the 2" high flow cat I've got sitting in the garage :(

[Lord_Zath]

wait so you don't want to lose low-end torque, yet you intend to install a high-flow cat???

I didn't realize you had the 1.6 engine. Good luck in your pursuits; doubt I can help you lol

[HI-RES]

Of course a little low end torque will be lost with the new cat, I mean to say I dont need to lose anymore by putting in an oversized pipe and slowing down the gas flow so I have to rev hard to get anything out of it.

And of course I have a 1.6, and no, bein smart ass doesnt help anyone..

[Lord_Zath]

Well this GB is for all size engines, so excuse me for not double-checking the first post to see what size engine you had. I'm not trying to be a smart ass, just trying to help out. I guess you don't need any help though. Good luck.

[Bala]

I don't believe they do. Even if they did, I've heard that they eventually fall off due to the heat on stupid little welds.

Believe me; I’m for performance over show. However, I’ve seen this header in the past and the placement of the badge was … er …. fugly IMO. If the badge was on one pipe, relatively flush and snug I wouldn’t mind at all. Does anyone have a definitive answer? I plan on having the header ceramic coated at Jet –Hot. I suppose a grinder could solve the issue! (thumb)

[Captain KRM P5]

finally spoke with OBX today - the 1.6 liter headers are *gasp* still not ready. i will keep everyone posted...

[Shane5425]

thats a suprise...

[SubXer0]

[QUOTE=mazpro]1) Steve_protege (00 Protege) (Interested)
2) Sic03Mazda (03 Protege 2.0L) ($$$ in hand and ready to send)
3) Tampasport20 (00 Protege 1.6L)
4) HI-RES (00 Protege 1.6L)
5) quagmire (00 Protege 1.6L)
6) jster28 (00 Protege 1.6L)
7) shanemazda2000p (00 protege 1.6l) interested if price isnt tooo steep
8)specialk111
9)crashed (2.0)
10)Mazpro (00 protege 1.6L) interested but have money next week.
11)Dr_banano(02 protege 1.6L)
12)Thapro1 2.0 (interested)

[Captain KRM P5]

thats a suprise...

peter told me "we know you are VERY interested in them, ken, we know. soon!"

broken record, i know :(

[steve_protege]

DAG, not good!!! Im tired of waiting for this, man!! What in world is going on???

[Captain KRM P5]

DAG, not good!!! Im tired of waiting for this, man!! What in world is going on???

knowing OBX, i would not hold your breath. i have just now convinced them to accept my credit terms rather than force me to get a cashiers check and do COD for every header i order, lol

[SubXer0]

geez this sucks

[MACEY]

OK I have a 03 P5 will these fit and what modifications will need to be made? Think I know the answer but making sure.

Marcus

[SubXer0]

it'll fit you'll need a mil eliminator or the non fouler trick to work right
peace
dante

[quagmire]

I can see this product not being released until early fall. its always 2 more weeks, 3 more weeks, 1 more week...with OBX you never know.

[Shane5425]

by the time they come out, ill prolly be ready to turbo charge...

[Lord_Zath]

Believe me; I’m for performance over show. However, I’ve seen this header in the past and the placement of the badge was … er …. fugly IMO. If the badge was on one pipe, relatively flush and snug I wouldn’t mind at all. Does anyone have a definitive answer? I plan on having the header ceramic coated at Jet –Hot. I suppose a grinder could solve the issue! (thumb)

I completely understand - I've seen pics of "Forza motorsports" plastered on the header. Ain't pretty. But yes Jet-Hot should be able to grind it off w/o too much of an issue.

As for the dude w/the 03 p5, I have the same thing. What's required - removal of stock exhaust manifold and 1st catalytic converter, and using a "trick" for the second o2 sensor - a nonfouler works best - search for spark plug non-fouler.

[SubXer0]

hey wanna do my non fouler when i get my header? (yes)
peace
dante

[Lord_Zath]

All you need is a 1/2 inch drillbit, drill, and perhaps some WD40 or other substance that helps loosen up the o2 sensor. I know for installing mine, we had to also purchase an o2 sensor socket.

It's pretty easy to do. I'm sure Ken or Brian (ZoomThis) wouldn't mind helping you out. My skills are mainly in watching and taking pictures hehe.

[HI-RES]

Well this GB is for all size engines, so excuse me for not double-checking the first post to see what size engine you had. I'm not trying to be a smart ass, just trying to help out. I guess you don't need any help though. Good luck.

well for whats its worth this thread is in the 1.6 tuning forum and there was only 2 out 11 people of the GB stating 2.0ltr.... sorry i thought that was obvious. I'm all for helpin each other out but ur response tangled up what I was asking or maybe i interpretted it wrong.

anyways it doesnt matter
(nobody)

peace!

the header...they're made in US right?
maybe they're short of metal fabricators at the moment, I know over here tradesman are becoming are rare breed & lots of manufacturing companies have ridiculous lead times. Makes u wonder whats goin on at OBX..

[snowblazin]

sign me up....whenever this is going to happen! (headbang)

[Shane5425]

sign me up....whenever this is going to happen! (headbang) which engine? this is for the 2.0 and 1.6

[Shane5425]

1) Steve_protege (00 Protege) (Interested)
2) Sic03Mazda (03 Protege 2.0L) ($$$ in hand and ready to send)
3) Tampasport20 (00 Protege 1.6L)
4) HI-RES (00 Protege 1.6L)
5) quagmire (00 Protege 1.6L)
6) jster28 (00 Protege 1.6L)
7) shanemazda2000p (00 protege 1.6l) interested
8)specialk111 (00 Protege 1.6L)
9)crashed (2.0)
10)Mazpro (00 protege 1.6L) interested but have money 2 weeks.
11)Dr_banano(02 protege 1.6L)
12)snowblazin (03 p5 2.0l)

[snowblazin]

DOH! (hand) I just remembered I forgot to put the info. Nice pickup on the car info!

[nadim]

so basically will havve to wait 2 or 3 more weeks for the header!!man this header is goind to slow!

[crashed]

Welcome to the world of aftermarket. No patience, no reward.

[Shane5425]

put a match under there ass, i bet they will hurry up.. lol..

[Shane5425]

ken , any updates or is this another failed attempt to get them to make them?

[Bala]

Sign me up for when this is a go (03 P5 2.0). I'm still waiting on my Wagner shorty to arrive, but between the time a got in on that group buy and now I've had an epiphany. Unless the Wagner header has gone through the California Air Resource Board for testing and certification guess what? ... Still not legal - at least here in Cali. Even if both cats are retained and it passes a sniff test, no C.A.R.B # - no passy smog inspection.(hand) I'm all for clean air, but I don't believe removing the pre-cat is going to make me a gross polluter. If I'm going to have to replace the stock manifold for a smog test anyway, I might as well have a full length header. I'm not expecting anyone in this thread to have interest in the Wagner header. This said, if anyone knows a member that can use the SS Wagner shorty for their application, I'll sell it for cost and I'll split the shipping just to be fair. PM me for details - it's a good deal. As soon as it arrives I'll pull it out of the box / post pictures / follow the forum rules.

[steve_protege]

1) Steve_protege (00 Protege) (Interested)
2) Sic03Mazda (03 Protege 2.0L) ($$$ in hand and ready to send)
3) Tampasport20 (00 Protege 1.6L)
4) HI-RES (00 Protege 1.6L)
5) quagmire (00 Protege 1.6L)
6) jster28 (00 Protege 1.6L)
7) shanemazda2000p (00 protege 1.6l) interested
8)specialk111 (00 Protege 1.6L)
9)crashed (2.0)
10)Mazpro (00 protege 1.6L) interested but have money 2 weeks.
11)Dr_banano(02 protege 1.6L)
12)snowblazin (03 p5 2.0l)
13)bala de plata (03 p5 2.0L)


Thats just to show another person is interested and help with GB pricing!!

[Shane5425]

yeah, by next year when they make them we might have 30 people... note the sarcasme... i think ken was right, dont hold our breath on it..

[SubXer0]

1) Steve_protege (00 Protege) (Interested)
2) Sic03Mazda (03 Protege 2.0L) ($$$ in hand and ready to send)
3) Tampasport20 (00 Protege 1.6L)
4) HI-RES (00 Protege 1.6L)
5) quagmire (00 Protege 1.6L)
6) jster28 (00 Protege 1.6L)
7) shanemazda2000p (00 protege 1.6l) interested
8)specialk111 (00 Protege 1.6L)
9)crashed (2.0)
10)Mazpro (00 protege 1.6L) interested but have money 2 weeks.
11)Dr_banano(02 protege 1.6L)
12)snowblazin (03 p5 2.0l)
13)bala de plata (03 p5 2.0L)

who erased my name from the list?

1) Steve_protege (00 Protege) (Interested)
2) Sic03Mazda (03 Protege 2.0L) ($$$ in hand and ready to send)
3) Tampasport20 (00 Protege 1.6L)
4) HI-RES (00 Protege 1.6L)
5) quagmire (00 Protege 1.6L)
6) jster28 (00 Protege 1.6L)
7) shanemazda2000p (00 protege 1.6l) interested
8)specialk111 (00 Protege 1.6L)
9)crashed (2.0)
10)Mazpro (00 protege 1.6L) interested but have money 2 weeks.
11)Dr_banano(02 protege 1.6L)
12)snowblazin (03 p5 2.0l)
13)bala de plata (03 p5 2.0L)
14) thapro1 (02 dx 2.0l)

[nadim]

so no contact from kken about the header!??(confused)

[mazpro]

sorry guys, I am running into some money problems. gotta get off the list for a while. hopefully by the time it comes out, I'll be better so I can buy it.

1) Steve_protege (00 Protege) (Interested)
2) Sic03Mazda (03 Protege 2.0L) ($$$ in hand and ready to send)
3) Tampasport20 (00 Protege 1.6L)
4) HI-RES (00 Protege 1.6L)
5) quagmire (00 Protege 1.6L)
6) jster28 (00 Protege 1.6L)
7) shanemazda2000p (00 protege 1.6l) interested
8)specialk111 (00 Protege 1.6L)
9)crashed (2.0)
10)Dr_banano(02 protege 1.6L)
11)snowblazin (03 p5 2.0l)
12)bala de plata (03 p5 2.0L)
13) thapro1 (02 dx 2.0l)

[Captain KRM P5]

so no contact from kken about the header!??(confused)

obx still does not have the 1.6 models

[Shane5425]

suprise suprise..

[Shane5425]

1) Steve_protege (00 Protege) (Interested)
2) Sic03Mazda (03 Protege 2.0L) ($$$ in hand and ready to send)
3) Tampasport20 (00 Protege 1.6L)
4) HI-RES (00 Protege 1.6L)
5) quagmire (00 Protege 1.6L)
6) jster28 (00 Protege 1.6L)
7)specialk111 (00 Protege 1.6L)
8)crashed (2.0)
9)Dr_banano(02 protege 1.6L)
10)snowblazin (03 p5 2.0l)
11)bala de plata (03 p5 2.0L)
12) thapro1 (02 dx 2.0l)
i dont have the cash anymore, bought some stuff for my girlfriend that she needed, and i dont think they will ever make these anyways,

gook luck to everyone else..

[Lord_Zath]

Patience, young padowan! It'll happen, but you just gotta wait for it :)

[Captain KRM P5]

Ok, I have run into a few issues this weekend and after some serious contemplation have come to a difficult decision.

I will no longer be offering group buys to international customers, and will no longer ship anything international unless it is with the US Postal Service. I have had two notices come back from Customs demanding payment for duties and fees that my customers, all on these headers actually, have decided is not thier responsibility to pay. Pending admin approval, I will publish the names of these individuals in the for sale sections so that they cannot screw another vendor or member over again.

I am sorry that the actions of a few must hamper it for others, but these kinds of altercations cost me a good deal of money and time to handle. I have also had the fortune of having a Canadian customer cancel his personal check on me after recieving his parts, which led me to no longer accept checks of any kind from a source outside the US.

[Lord_Zath]

ouch. sucks you have to go through that b.s., ken. Not fair at all...

[slkt]

1) Steve_protege (00 Protege) (Interested)
2) Sic03Mazda (03 Protege 2.0L) ($$$ in hand and ready to send)
3) Tampasport20 (00 Protege 1.6L)
4) HI-RES (00 Protege 1.6L)
5) quagmire (00 Protege 1.6L)
6) jster28 (00 Protege 1.6L)
7)specialk111 (00 Protege 1.6L)
8)crashed (2.0)
9)Dr_banano(02 protege 1.6L)
10)snowblazin (03 p5 2.0l)
11)bala de plata (03 p5 2.0L)
12) thapro1 (02 dx 2.0l)
13) slkt (03 P5 2.0L)

[anarchistchiken]

This is a great mod to invest in guys! It probably gave me the best gains of any of my mods (for now anyway ;))

Ken is a great seller too. I'd buy again from him any day of the week!

[HI-RES]

Ok, I have run into a few issues this weekend and after some serious contemplation have come to a difficult decision.

I will no longer be offering group buys to international customers, and will no longer ship anything international unless it is with the US Postal Service. I have had two notices come back from Customs demanding payment for duties and fees that my customers, all on these headers actually, have decided is not thier responsibility to pay. Pending admin approval, I will publish the names of these individuals in the for sale sections so that they cannot screw another vendor or member over again.

I am sorry that the actions of a few must hamper it for others, but these kinds of altercations cost me a good deal of money and time to handle. I have also had the fortune of having a Canadian customer cancel his personal check on me after recieving his parts, which led me to no longer accept checks of any kind from a source outside the US.

Man thats pretty wack, sorry to hear it.
If I cant be part of the group buy then how do I go about ordering from you, do I have to pay full retail I guess?

Ken if its any consolation, I've ordered plenty of stuff from the states before and know how the customs system works. If this header is sent USPS to australia there will be no customs BS on anyone's end.
I respect your stance on the matter, but naturally I find this situation frustrating because I always do these things by the book
(shrug)

[khaosman]

1) Steve_protege (00 Protege) (Interested)
2) Sic03Mazda (03 Protege 2.0L) ($$$ in hand and ready to send)
3) Tampasport20 (00 Protege 1.6L)
4) HI-RES (00 Protege 1.6L)
5) quagmire (00 Protege 1.6L)
6) jster28 (00 Protege 1.6L)
7)specialk111 (00 Protege 1.6L)
8)crashed (2.0)
9)Dr_banano(02 protege 1.6L)
10)snowblazin (03 p5 2.0l)
11)bala de plata (03 p5 2.0L)
12) thapro1 (02 dx 2.0l)
13) slkt (03 P5 2.0L)
14) khaosman (02 P5 2.0L)

[quagmire]

So is this still happening?

[Lord_Zath]

My guess is Ken's still waiting to hear back from OBX. Nothing he can really do at this point except bitch at them...

[Captain KRM P5]

do not expect the 1.6 headers to be in stock any time soon. when it happens, i will let everyone know.

[TampaSport20]

do not expect the 1.6 headers to be in stock any time soon. when it happens, i will let everyone know.

I still say they do not exist. Looks Like I have been proven right once again

[Captain KRM P5]

I still say they do not exist. Looks Like I have been proven right once again

obx has been a disappointment to me all week. i do not think they are going to be anything but that in my future dealings with them.

[anarchistchiken]

Sorry to hear that man. Are you still offering the group buy for the 2.0/1.8 guys?

[Lord_Zath]

happy birthday, steve!

[Bala]

Sorry to hear that man. Are you still offering the group buy for the 2.0/1.8 guys?

Bump - Do we still have 7 2.0's? Can this still be a go if we get 3 more, or is this dead?

[Captain KRM P5]

if i can get ten or more GUARANTEED buyers i will do a group buy on the 2.0/1.8

[Bala]

if i can get ten or more GUARANTEED buyers i will do a group buy on the 2.0/1.8

Alrighty then … Role call, who still wants to make this happen? I'm in.

[fabian]

can I get in on this buy if I got a 1.6L??? and how much is it gonna cost me? Definitely have been wanting the OBX headers for a while now

[SubXer0]

list for 2.0/1.8 guys com'on we need 8 more guys!

1)bala de plata
2)thapro1
3)
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5)
6)
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8)
9)
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[SubXer0]

can I get in on this buy if I got a 1.6L??? and how much is it gonna cost me? Definitely have been wanting the OBX headers for a while now
you could but you will prob live out your natural life before there ever made
sorry
peace
dante

[steve_protege]

happy birthday, steve!


Thanks much man!! Good to see that someone noticed!!!

[fabian]

there's obx headers for a 1.6L at protegegarage.com...they do make em only $239

[SubXer0]

have you read the thread? they don't have them

[Shane5425]

there's obx headers for a 1.6L at protegegarage.com...they do make em only $239

the owner of protege garage is the vendor doing this group buy.. he cant get them because they refuse to make them.. even though they say they have them..

[fabian]

well fuck me in the ass! that means there's one less mod that I can do to my car...unless anyone knows of any other company that makes headers for the 1.6

[Lord_Zath]

(butthump)(upbum)

[Shane5425]

well fuck me in the ass! that means there's one less mod that I can do to my car...unless anyone knows of any other company that makes headers for the 1.6

hiboost does, but there is something called a turbo that goes in the middle of it...... (rockon)

[fabian]

wouldn't that be called a turbo manifold!? I WANT HEADERS!!!!!!!!

[Shane5425]

wouldn't that be called a turbo manifold!? I WANT HEADERS!!!!!!!!

yeah, i was bieng a smart ass.. SR racing makes the header if you want to fork out almost 700 dollars..

[fabian]

added my name, but I'd like to see pics of the product before paying

I am most definitely in on a group buy for the 1.6L headers...ready with my credit card!!!

[Captain KRM P5]

yeah, i was bieng a smart ass.. SR racing makes the header if you want to fork out almost 700 dollars..

sr does NOT make the header. like all thier other parts the take them and rebadge them as thier own, in this case, the obx header. i know this because the picture they have on thier site is a picture i took from way back when. they do not have 1.6 headers.

[Lord_Zath]

yeah the SR motorsports header is what 500 bucks? Pretty expensive re-badge!

It's the same as the OBX header. Don't go wasting any more money than you have to.

[redrims]

If they ever come out, you can count me in...

[steve_protege]

UPDATE!!!


Got a response from Dave @ OBX Racing Sports:

" Hi Steve,

Sorry for the delay, we're having some technical difficulities on this
application. We're pushing the release date to second week of Aug., 2005.

Thank you

Dave-OBX"


Oh boy, another month we have to wait!! Wonderful.......

[Shane5425]

technical difficultys = to lazy to get off asses or other headers sell better so we gonna make them first..

[nadim]

just have to wait then and see what will happen!!!!!

[steve_protege]

I know the first attempt at the GB for the 1.6 liter headers took a slight detour. But would you still offer the special GB pricing once OBX releases these (if they EVER do)? Im still very interested in buying this header and am willing to wait it out if necessary. Think about it man!! Thanks.

Steve O

[Captain KRM P5]

word i have from people inside OBX is that these are never coming out

[nadim]

now that's better to know that they aren't never coming out so we won't be waiting for it, so the only thing to get extra power for our 1.6L is by going turbo ....yeah...

[steve_protege]

So you mean we have NOTHING as far as an exhaust header goes? What are we left with then? Port/polishing?? Not to doubt your sources or anything, but who did you hear the "word" from? Is it someone reputable?




word i have from people inside OBX is that these are never coming out

[Captain KRM P5]

So you mean we have NOTHING as far as an exhaust header goes? What are we left with then? Port/polishing?? Not to doubt your sources or anything, but who did you hear the "word" from? Is it someone reputable?

two sales reps at OBX i have been dealing with for two years plus now.

[steve_protege]

okay, just curious. So, where does that leave us 1.6ers now?




two sales reps at OBX i have been dealing with for two years plus now.

[Captain KRM P5]

okay, just curious. So, where does that leave us 1.6ers now?

if anything ever comes of it (its several YEARS overdue now) i will let you all know.

i have to be honest with you - a header is not going to make a huge difference on the 1.6 liter. even when combined with an intake and exhaust, its not going to make it worth the money you spend into it. figure 250 for a header, 250 for an intake, 500 for an exhaust (granted these are high estimates), plus assorted mods to go with them, you are already 1000+ dollars into mods that really aren't going to net you many gains. That and there simply aren't enough other parts available for the 1.6 to accompany things like the header. The very best performance modification you can get for this engine is really the HiBoost turbo kit, and if you're willing to spend a grand or more on mods as it is, one might as well save up that much more for some serious horsepower.

[steve_protege]

Okay, kinda sucks to hear that. If headers are out of the question, then would the next "best" step be a visit to a machine shop for port/polishing? I figure with a good port job you can get about the same kind of performance as a set of headers would net you, right? All you are really doing is opening up the piping a bit to allow more air to come in/go out, correct? Then maybe porting/polishing the head and IM as well would help to. And since there is no bigger TB or MAF, maybe bore out the TB a little bit and get rid of the bottlenecks in the MAF???






if anything ever comes of it (its several YEARS overdue now) i will let you all know.

i have to be honest with you - a header is not going to make a huge difference on the 1.6 liter. even when combined with an intake and exhaust, its not going to make it worth the money you spend into it. figure 250 for a header, 250 for an intake, 500 for an exhaust (granted these are high estimates), plus assorted mods to go with them, you are already 1000+ dollars into mods that really aren't going to net you many gains. That and there simply aren't enough other parts available for the 1.6 to accompany things like the header. The very best performance modification you can get for this engine is really the HiBoost turbo kit, and if you're willing to spend a grand or more on mods as it is, one might as well save up that much more for some serious horsepower.

[Captain KRM P5]

the costs of porting and polishing the head would be in the thousands of dollars. it has been shown on the 1.8 and 2.0 that throttle body work does next to nothing in terms of performance. that and the ECU will not be able to adapt to these mods anyhow. for the money you will be spending to do the work you speak of, you can buy a turbo, have a more reliable setup and make more power.

[steve_protege]

the costs of porting and polishing the head would be in the thousands of dollars. it has been shown on the 1.8 and 2.0 that throttle body work does next to nothing in terms of performance. that and the ECU will not be able to adapt to these mods anyhow. for the money you will be spending to do the work you speak of, you can buy a turbo, have a more reliable setup and make more power.


Soooooo....... you're pretty much saying that I should just start saving up for the turbo kit now? Should I start reinforcing the tranny now if I plan on boosting in the future? Since I have an auto, I would need things like an tranny cooler, torque converter, right? Then other small nic-nacs in the future before or after purchasing the actual kit??

[Captain KRM P5]

yes, if you want serious power from this car in its current state (1.6, auto trans), i would definetely start saving for the hiboost kit and the trans cooler. at low boost your converter should hold up as long as you do not abuse the hell out of it.

[steve_protege]

yes, if you want serious power from this car in its current state (1.6, auto trans), i would definetely start saving for the hiboost kit and the trans cooler. at low boost your converter should hold up as long as you do not abuse the hell out of it.


Alright, gotcha!! So "low-boost" would be 6-7 PSI correct? Plus as long as I don't drop the hammer to the floor every time I accelerate, the tranny should hold up?

[Captain KRM P5]

Alright, gotcha!! So "low-boost" would be 6-7 PSI correct? Plus as long as I don't drop the hammer to the floor every time I accelerate, the tranny should hold up?

say no to neutral drops and stoplight peelouts :D

[steve_protege]

say no to neutral drops and stoplight peelouts :D


Yep! Already do. Thanks much Ken!

[Captain KRM P5]

whats your timeframe on purchase?

[Shane5425]

say no to neutral drops and stoplight peelouts :D
and hello to big tranny cooler..

[Lord_Zath]

is the transmission the same in the proteges? Or is it rated at lower hp for the 1.6?

[TampaSport20]

is the transmission the same in the proteges? Or is it rated at lower hp for the 1.6?

All 3rd gen auto trannies are the same...

[MIA protege]

say no to neutral drops and stoplight peelouts :D

very hard not to do lol ...

[Shane5425]

All 3rd gen auto trannies are the same...

yep all the same, autos anyway, just differant bell housing and trqconvertor..