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colin949
12-27-2002, 02:32 PM
I whent into my moms work today and they had a wall full of all the mazdaspeed products that they are going to sell for the msp. They had boost controllers, exhausts, and full suspension kits.

Limited Edition
12-27-2002, 02:38 PM
all under warrenty???
Mazdaspeed is simply the best!! :D

colin949
12-27-2002, 02:40 PM
yeah i think it is, they had a whole bunch of stuff they were sellling for it.

whatwhat411
12-27-2002, 04:48 PM
Selling? As in selling already? A lot of people dont even have their cars yet :wtf:

big_ben
12-27-2002, 05:03 PM
I seriously doubt they had boost controllers. At least not under warranty they didn't.

slug420
12-28-2002, 03:10 AM
maybe they are some kind of tamper proof boost controller that increases the boost to 9psi which is safe, from the stock 6.9 or whatever, but which cannot be adjusted when installed? i dunno

Dexter
12-28-2002, 01:14 PM
pics

EVADE
12-28-2002, 04:08 PM
hawaii has 2 mazdaspeed cars on the lot already.!

colin949
12-28-2002, 04:29 PM
no dude they have boost controllers

AutoXer
12-28-2002, 06:07 PM
Please take pics of these parts and post them.

StuttersC
12-29-2002, 01:31 AM
Originally posted by colin949
no dude they have boost controllers

Do you mean blow off vavles??

I seriously doubt boost controllers as well. That would be setting themselves up for some serious warranty issues...I can see it now.

And by suspension, do you mean the springs, struts and sway bars, such as what they did for the MP3. Selling the parts to non MSP owners.

I know that Mazda was going to sell the suspension, and exhaust from the MSP to non-MSP owners like how they did with the MP3 parts. The item that we really want to know about is the damn LSD!

And no one has still provided the stock boost level via boost gauge reading, so no one for sure knows if it 5.9, 6.2, 6.9, 9 psi...And your mom working for Mazda isn't going to cut it on this one, because the business manager of Mazdaspeed is only stating old press release BS.

colin949
12-31-2002, 03:24 AM
ahaha i know what a boost controller is its a mazdaspeed boost controller that is what it is, not a blow off valve

StuttersC
12-31-2002, 05:31 AM
Originally posted by colin949
ahaha i know what a boost controller is its a mazdaspeed boost controller that is what it is, not a blow off valve

And how is Mazda going to deal with the warranty issues of blown engines from morons overboosting??

And where are the pics??

colin949
12-31-2002, 04:38 PM
its probley boost at your own risk

Dexter
12-31-2002, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by StuttersC

And where are the pics??

StuttersC
01-01-2003, 07:21 AM
Originally posted by colin949
its probley boost at your own risk

Then it isn't a Mazdaspeed product...

slug420
01-01-2003, 11:55 AM
no no no, its a mazdaspeed boost controller

except there no controller.......or boost, and without the mazdaspeed part.....in fact, its a piece of metal that you are supposed to weld on to your engine......no known performance gains

APEXistud
01-01-2003, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by slug420
no no no, its a mazdaspeed boost controller

except there no controller.......or boost, and without the mazdaspeed part.....in fact, its a piece of metal that you are supposed to weld on to your engine......no known performance gains

(laugh) I'm a sceptic too. I mean if you look into the past, what manufacturer has ever made a boost controller available for one of their turbo production vehicles. To my knowledge.....0 It's just not a smart move for an automotive company since they have a warranty on all their vehicles. For a silly comparison, it would be like AA handing out shots of Tequila before a meeting.:D

AutoXer
01-01-2003, 02:10 PM
Indeed, I'm also highly skeptical. Turning up the boost is a fast way to void your warranty.

Although it could be that they'd sell one and warranty only the boost controller, while voiding the car's warranty.

saided18
01-01-2003, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by APEXistud


... For a silly comparison, it would be like AA handing out shots of Tequila before a meeting.:D (rofl) (lol) (drinks) (hippy)

jrod
01-01-2003, 04:39 PM
maybe its not really a controller to say, but somthing to raise the stock boost level 2-3 p.s.i. over stock. any way i dove one this past weekend in maimi and im thinking of going back this weekend to get it, ive been reading this forum for months now and now that i might be getting one i thought it was time to sign up, hello all.

colin949
01-01-2003, 05:23 PM
no i think the reason they made is because every mag says get a booost controller to make more power

Newf
01-01-2003, 05:43 PM
Hmmmm, maybe Mazda purposely released the speed with a less psi then it could handle so they could make some money by selling a boost controller through the mazdaspeed line. Maybe the boost controller just brings it to around 200hp.

Think of it..... it would be a sneeaky, but good business decision.

slug420
01-01-2003, 08:32 PM
thats what im hoping.

stock psi of 6.9, "boost controller" boosts to max of 9 psi.....maybe you can switch from 6.9 to 9, but no way to boost over 9

it would make sense since a lot of press releases specifically said it could handle 9psi safely.......

slug420
01-01-2003, 08:34 PM
but please
GET US SOME PICS OF THE WALL
PLEASE

i have been almost more looking forward to the list of mazdaspeed parts than spy shots of the cars for the past 6 months

colin949
01-01-2003, 10:11 PM
ill try to get up early and go with my mom to work, take some pictures its like right in the lobby as you walk in. If i can figure out how to put them on the ocmputer ill put them on in the morning

dominoy2k1
01-01-2003, 10:22 PM
maybe all this is a bunch of bull....witch it is.....

colin949
01-01-2003, 10:32 PM
ahah your a retard, i am telling you what i saw, if you don't believe it, go on tomarrow and see the pictures, then post something and i am gunna laugh in yoiur face but you are ignorant

Gyre
01-01-2003, 10:40 PM
Why the assumption that MazdaSpeed = under warranty? The existing MazdaSpeed parts for Proteges don't preserve your warranty so why should these be any different?

jrod
01-01-2003, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by newf
Hmmmm, maybe Mazda purposely released the speed with a less psi then it could handle so they could make some money by selling a boost controller through the mazdaspeed line. Maybe the boost controller just brings it to around 200hp.

Think of it..... it would be a sneeaky, but good business decision.

i agree with you,we get the good handling,but we got to pay a little more fo the extra h.p.,which some poeple might not need or care about.

slug420
01-02-2003, 12:25 AM
Originally posted by Gyre
Why the assumption that MazdaSpeed = under warranty? The existing MazdaSpeed parts for Proteges don't preserve your warranty so why should these be any different?

i believe up until now mazdaspeed has not been fully affiliated with mazda

and it has been a big selling point of the MSP and the new mazdaspeed line that mazdaspeed upgrades will be made available without voiding the warranty

Dexter
01-02-2003, 03:20 AM
Originally posted by colin949
ahah your a retard, i am telling you what i saw, if you don't believe it, go on tomarrow and see the pictures, then post something and i am gunna laugh in yoiur face but you are ignorant

quit talkin smack, and post the pics. ;)

low_psi
01-02-2003, 04:04 AM
a LIMITED boost controller i can see. but there is no way mazda is gonna keep giving engines to idiots who think our engines can handle 1bar... i don't doubt that mazdaspeed has developed a BC either, but if it is an unrestricted BC, there will not be a warranty......

dominoy2k1
01-02-2003, 04:47 AM
Originally posted by Dexter


quit talkin smack, and post the pics. ;)


really.....

JPBlackMP5
01-02-2003, 03:23 PM
Or at least get you mom to take the pics and scan them to your PC. then post on this thread. (There I said it!)

Dexter
01-02-2003, 05:18 PM
HRM still no pics, what a surprise! :p

slug420
01-02-2003, 07:08 PM
pics...

EastAl
01-02-2003, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by newf
Hmmmm, maybe Mazda purposely released the speed with a less psi then it could handle so they could make some money by selling a boost controller through the mazdaspeed line. Maybe the boost controller just brings it to around 200hp.

Think of it..... it would be a sneeaky, but good business decision.

Thank Ford for the 170 hp limit. Since Ford released the Focus SVT, and it only puts out 170 hp NA, they are damn sure not going to let a car manufactuer that they own sell a car that is only $1500 more, with at least 50 more hp!
Supposedly, Callaway had the MSP over 200 hp when the first set it up. Then Ford made them back it down to 170, so as not to compete to heavily with the SVT Focus.

Dexter
01-03-2003, 01:59 AM
fuck the svt focus.

StuttersC
01-03-2003, 03:28 AM
Originally posted by Gyre
Why the assumption that MazdaSpeed = under warranty? The existing MazdaSpeed parts for Proteges don't preserve your warranty so why should these be any different?


Um, wrong...Mazdaspeed parts are Mazda parts. Mazdaspeed is owned by Mazda, and therefore, the parts sold by Mazdaspeed carry and retain the mazda factory warranty.

Mazdaspeed parts in your Protege will not void your Mazda warranty...You are changing Mazda parts for different Mazda parts.

Gyre
01-03-2003, 04:55 AM
Originally posted by StuttersC



Um, wrong...Mazdaspeed parts are Mazda parts. Mazdaspeed is owned by Mazda, and therefore, the parts sold by Mazdaspeed carry and retain the mazda factory warranty.

Mazdaspeed parts in your Protege will not void your Mazda warranty...You are changing Mazda parts for different Mazda parts.

Not true. There were disclaimers on the MazdaSpeed parts web pages. If I bought the 21mm (or whatever size the bigger one was) rear anti-sway bar and put it on my P5 and it broke the brackets on the struts, I would be SOL. Read the disclaimer at the bottom of the page. MazdaSpeed Motorsports Development (http://www.mazdamotorsports.com)

slug420
01-03-2003, 02:55 PM
pics?

JPBlackMP5
01-03-2003, 03:23 PM
Doesn't Mazdaspeed mods only apply to competition and not day-to-day use? From the disclaimer:
All suggested modifications and recommendations are intended solely for use on vehicles participating in off-highway competition events. Purchaser acknowledges that all Mazda vehicle warranties are voided if the vehicle is used in any Competition events. The purchaser accepts all responsibility for modifications to said vehicle(s) and all potential risks.

dominoy2k1
01-03-2003, 03:33 PM
once again....:bs: ......

StuttersC
01-03-2003, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by Gyre


Not true. There were disclaimers on the MazdaSpeed parts web pages. If I bought the 21mm (or whatever size the bigger one was) rear anti-sway bar and put it on my P5 and it broke the brackets on the struts, I would be SOL. Read the disclaimer at the bottom of the page. MazdaSpeed Motorsports Development (http://www.mazdamotorsports.com)

Yes true. Mazda bought Mazdaspeed in 1999. All Mazdaspeed parts are considered Mazda parts and will not void your warranty.

Mazdaspeed Motorsports (formerly known as Mazda Motorsports) is an entirely seperate entity. You can purchase some Mazdaspeed parts throught them, however, such as the cams. The 21mm rear sway bar is made by AWR, not Mazdaspeed, hence no warranty from Mazda...

ArkosP5
01-03-2003, 04:32 PM
My dealer told me that unless the Mazdaspeed parts were purchased THROUGH the mazda dealer, they would NOT be warrantied. I was going to have the mazdaspeed flywheel installed when I had my cluctch/pressure plate/flywheel replaced. If I had been able to order it through the dealer (they didn't have the PN in their computer yet) it WOULD be covered by the warranty, but if I had ordered the same flywheel from protege5online, it would NOT be covered.

StuttersC
01-03-2003, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by ArkosP5
My dealer told me that unless the Mazdaspeed parts were purchased THROUGH the mazda dealer, they would NOT be warrantied. I was going to have the mazdaspeed flywheel installed when I had my cluctch/pressure plate/flywheel replaced. If I had been able to order it through the dealer (they didn't have the PN in their computer yet) it WOULD be covered by the warranty, but if I had ordered the same flywheel from protege5online, it would NOT be covered.

Your dealer is being a-holes then. If it is a Mazda part they HAVE to warranty it, no matter what. They just want to charge you through the nose with dealer mark-up.

A Mazda part is a Mazda part, whether it is bought from your dealership or through an importer like Mazdaspeed Motorsports or Cork Sport. If it is a Mazda part, then it is a Mazda part with the Mazda warranty that must be honored by any Mazda dealer.

saided18
01-03-2003, 08:11 PM
well yeah a mazda part will be warrantied if and only if the part is made for that car AND a mazda dealership puts it in.

b/c if you put the high compression pistons from the FS-ZE protege engine from japan and your car gets all fucked up then mazda will tell you to shove the car up your ass cuz they won't fix it. Those pistons are mazda parts but are not made for the US version of the protege. get me.

also if you by new cams for your car and install them your self and fuck up your car yet again mazda will tell you to take a hike b/c it was your fault.

see mazda not only has a warranty on the parts but also the install too. b/c you can have the right parts but if there not installed right then that can fuck up the car.

StuttersC
01-04-2003, 01:30 AM
I'm tired of arguing this point, you obviously have no idea what I am saying.

The part is warrantied no matter what if it a Mazda part, regardless of what market the part is for, regardless if it is a specialized part. Mazda parts are warrantied by Mazda, period.

As for the install, any Mazda dealer, or authorized mechanic (read as not a dealership mechanic) can do the install and that will warranty the stuff that way.

That is it. There is no, "Well this part is out of a FS-ZE motor and we will not warranty it." If they do, they are breaking the laws put in place covering warranties. It is that simple.


Why is everyone jumping my case about this shit?? I simply point out that Mazdaspeed parts will not void your warranty and you all jump knee deep in my trash pulling crap out of your ass trying to prove me wrong. Believe what you want, but this attacking bullshit is getting pretty damn tiring.

And most people say this site is "nicer" than the P-Club, and I'm beginning to think this place is just the same.

Gyre
01-04-2003, 01:44 AM
From Racing Beat MazdaSpeed Protege Q&A (https://www.racingbeat.com/pdf/q_a.pdf):


Q. Will MAZDASPEED parts be included under the Mazda warranty?

A. MAZDASPEED street parts will be covered under the existing Mazda warranty. Competition and off-road parts will be sold without a warranty.

I guess the real question is are the parts MAZDASPEED street parts or competition or off-road parts? It would make a lot of sense to me to have a boost controller or whatever as a competition part.

The reason I brought it up was not to put down anybody or prove anybody wrong but to make sure nobody goes ahead and buys something thinking it is included under the warranty and then gets screwed. It is about being nice. It's about protecting other board members. Don't take it personally.

Dexter
01-04-2003, 04:19 AM
lol, guys, stop arguing if the mazdaspeed parts will be under warranty, because guess what, this guy is full of BS.

this is like the 3rd time he posts stuff and doesnt back shit up.
whatever.

slug420
01-04-2003, 04:47 AM
isnt there anyone else from irvine on this board?

could someone throw on a polo shirt and somekhakis and go walking into mazda HQ to snap some pics?

just look like u know what ur doing and no one will bother you im sure. :)

saided18
01-04-2003, 10:35 PM
Originally posted by StuttersC
I'm tired of arguing this point, you obviously have no idea what I am saying.

The part is warrantied no matter what if it a Mazda part, regardless of what market the part is for, regardless if it is a specialized part. Mazda parts are warrantied by Mazda, period.

As for the install, any Mazda dealer, or authorized mechanic (read as not a dealership mechanic) can do the install and that will warranty the stuff that way.

That is it. There is no, "Well this part is out of a FS-ZE motor and we will not warranty it." If they do, they are breaking the laws put in place covering warranties. It is that simple.


Why is everyone jumping my case about this shit?? I simply point out that Mazdaspeed parts will not void your warranty and you all jump knee deep in my trash pulling crap out of your ass trying to prove me wrong. Believe what you want, but this attacking bullshit is getting pretty damn tiring.

And most people say this site is "nicer" than the P-Club, and I'm beginning to think this place is just the same.


Look i don't want to be an asshole or any thing b/c you a cool guy and shit, but they way your sayin is that i can take a part out of a diesel mazda egine and out it on a gas engine? it is a mazda part. Or i can take the turbo off a mazda diesel engine and put it on my engine and everything is ok? right? you can't just mix and match parts. Mazda is warranting the engine they built and sold to you. you start to put other parts on it and change the engine with other "mazda" parts then it's not the engine they have the warranty on. so if that part, either mazda part or not that was put on the car other then mazda, fails or causes a problem then you out of luck. that is all i'm saying.

colin949
01-05-2003, 03:32 AM
sorry guys i;ve been busy but tomarrow i will take some digital photos and post them

WShade
01-19-2003, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by colin949
sorry guys i;ve been busy but tomarrow i will take some digital photos and post them

Have you had any luck?

APEXistud
01-19-2003, 11:13 PM
I was wondering what happened to this post the otehr day.

spoolinmp3
01-20-2003, 06:09 PM
Dude where are the fuggin pics......this threas is 4 pages of waste. I am pretty sure along with everybody else that there aint no boost controller.....thats just stupid

StuttersC
01-20-2003, 06:17 PM
Pictures, pictures, where are the pictures??

Dexter
01-20-2003, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by Dexter
guess what, this guy is full of BS.

this is like the 3rd time he posts stuff and doesnt back shit up.
whatever.

StuttersC
01-20-2003, 09:09 PM
Nice, its always good when you can quote yourself in the same thread...

spoolinmp3
01-20-2003, 09:14 PM
Nice, its always good when you can quote yourself in the same thread... (lol)

Dexter
01-21-2003, 01:20 AM
Originally posted by StuttersC
Nice, its always good when you can quote yourself in the same thread...

heheeh :D

dominoy2k1
01-21-2003, 01:49 AM
why dont the mods just lock this thread? since this guy is full of sh!t

redmption
01-22-2003, 08:15 PM
isnt there anyone else from irvine on this board?

could someone throw on a polo shirt and somekhakis and go walking into mazda HQ to snap some pics?

just look like u know what ur doing and no one will bother you im sure.



I live near there but it may take me a fewdays to get off my ass to go look.

saided18
01-22-2003, 10:17 PM
at my mazda dealership they do have mazdaspeed parts.

they have the
mazdaspeed floor mats
the mazdaspeed swaybar and suspension
and the mazdaspeed exhaust.

ehwal
01-22-2003, 11:46 PM
The only thing that my dealer has is Mazdaspeed key-chains, pens, hats and shirts, and a couple thing fo rthe Miata.

Why would a fellow enthusiast even want to play w/ us like that, it's leaving me blue-wrenched.

Dude, follow through

Next time, tell you what you do....
You see the product(s), think, investigate @ store (ask questions/read labels). Once the product has been identified, GET YOUR CAMERA!!! Take good, legible pictures. Scan, download, ask someone if you don't know how. Post pictures @ the SAME time as your post describing what you saw the day you went in to work with your Mom. Then start meaningful thread about the capabilities and ideas on how to install it.

Please don't tease.

BoOsTiN
01-23-2003, 11:16 PM
Hey guys..
Im new here just bought my MSP 2 days ago.
Just thought id introduce myself and give my insight on the mazdaspeed parts issue.
Im afraid I dont have much info but it maybe just a glimpse of hope.
I was talking to the parts guys I "kinda" know at my dealer when I purchased the car. I asked if MS was coming out with any other parts for the car. He says " oh im not sure". I then proceed to tell him about the rumors of more parts coming out including the boost controller. He then looks at me very confusingly and says " oh well.. uhh we're not supposed to say anything yet". And with a weird smile pats me on the shoulder and walks away.
I know its not much but hey... sounds rather promising.

big_ben
01-23-2003, 11:48 PM
I'll tell you what. This is how sure that mazda isn't selling a "mazdaspeed" boost controller. If they do start selling one, I'll buy the first person who takes a photo of it and brand new MSP. Mazda knows the engine can't handle much more boost. Any of you that think otherwise, you need to do a little more research on this motor like the rest of us here have. You are just making yourself, look stupid.

BoOsTiN
01-24-2003, 12:02 AM
Are you referring to me with the "stupid" remark?

slug420
01-24-2003, 12:11 AM
i dont think there is anything stupid about thinking mazda might release a boost controller to increase the boost from 6.9 to a safe 9psi......

ehwal
01-24-2003, 12:50 AM
If i know Mazda.. and i think i know them pretty well, they would 1st make a part to reduce Boost before they would ever increase it. In their eyes more boost is bad boost especially if they get the bill when the engine starts hurtin. Not to say that the engine wouldn't be safe @ 9 psi, Mazda just aint gonna risk it.

Maybe Mazdaspeed would, but it wouldn't be warrantied, and it would cost a hell of alot more than any of the extremely compitent controllers that are already out there.

andr3w
01-24-2003, 07:25 AM
Don't forget, this is published on the Mazda web site:

"Soon you'll be able to purchase some of the same MAZDASPEED competition parts available to racers, plus a new upcoming line of performance-enhancing parts and accessories for street use."

Now in terms of getting photos from within MNAO. Well, I have been in the building and they use swipe cards to access all doors after the foyer. Security is pretty anal, more so than Ford offices where you can just walk in and get to the person or meeting. Further, photograph taking at ANY automotive facility is difficult. We have not been allowed to photograph our line side bin and inventory solutions at plants (GM, Ford, AAI etc). Now it might be bullshit, but I can imagine Colin's Mom telling him no-way to photos... and he is hardly going to push the issue with the way he is treated on this board.

cheers

Andr3w

Newf
01-24-2003, 11:06 AM
It's been mentioned before, but I'll rehash.

Mazda Knows the engine will take 9 psi safely, and that at 12 psi you'll see damage after time.

It would be in Mazda's best interest financially, especially since they can't be making much money on the Speed as it is, to release the car with a lower psi then it can safely handle, then release the boost controller as a Mazdaspeed product. This makes the customer happy, gives Mazdaspeed a viable product, and give Mazda some money, and good press for their new Mazdaspeed line.

If this was the case, not saying it is, but it's a really good business decision......kinda srewing us in a way making it so we have to buy the controller and all

spoolinmp3
01-24-2003, 12:51 PM
Yes the FS motor can handle 9 psi safley. But that is the limit of the motor. So why would a car company inrease the boost and push the vehicle to the threshold? It just does not make any sense. Big Ben is correct he just is very blunt about it......but he is correct. And releasing the boost controller as better business??..well if you look at it like that then why did not mazda release the car with 9 psi??? That would have been much better. Because then the car would have a higher HP , better times, better stats ect and they would be selling a 20,000 car that has 25,000 performance stats. So mazda aint stupid. If they were to release this car with 9psi they would have done it initially when they were being sold and released the "inflated" stats in the press kits so all the journalists could hype up the MSP.

Newf
01-24-2003, 01:14 PM
it's not better business if the engines start blowing up no. But, if they want MAzdaspeed to have a real impact, they are going to have to release something more then stickers, and some CAI's or something. A boost controller would be real nice. Who's to say they will push it all the way to 9? We don't even really know what the stock psi is yet.

I'm just saying, that after every stunt Mazda has pulled in the past, I wouldn't doubt they reduce the PSI on purpose. not saying they did because as you say, it would be kind of like shooting themselves in the foot in one respect.

big_ben
01-24-2003, 01:15 PM
Power always has it's trade-offs. The more power you pull out of a motor that wasn't meant for it, the more of it's life is sacrificed. Please tell me why Mazda wants everyone to have a very fast car for only 5 years.

slug420
01-24-2003, 02:20 PM
stock psi is exactly 6.9

one of the texas MSP owners got a boost gaueg right off the bat

big_ben
01-24-2003, 02:26 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was right! I knew it wasn't 9psi like "theman" said. God damn I love being right! There's no way mazda would sell this car at 9psi! That's just stupid!

APEXistud
01-24-2003, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by big_ben
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was right! I knew it wasn't 9psi like "theman" said. God damn I love being right! There's no way mazda would sell this car at 9psi! That's just stupid!

Rub it in Big Ben, rub it in(thumb) :D

PA_MP3_Man
01-24-2003, 02:40 PM
hmmm. Remember the mags that test drove the MSP. They said the reason why the boost was limited so low as to protect the tranny. How many tranny's do you think 50 more HP will shatter. Just my thoughts.

StuttersC
01-24-2003, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by slug420
stock psi is exactly 6.9

one of the texas MSP owners got a boost gaueg right off the bat

Nice to hear, but unfortunately this has about as much truth to it as the "My mom works there and I saw a boost controller on the wall" crap...

WHERE IS THE PROOF?!? Pictures of it please...

Dexter
01-24-2003, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by StuttersC


Nice to hear, but unfortunately this has about as much truth to it as the "My mom works there and I saw a boost controller on the wall" crap...

WHERE IS THE PROOF?!? Pictures of it please...

uh oh stutters...this isnt looking good for your 9psi cause... hehehe

big_ben
01-24-2003, 02:43 PM
That is just the stupidity of the writers. Actually, it's not really stupidity, they just didn't do research on the subject they were writing about. Which is unprofessional and makes them look stupid. If they had done their research they would have known the trannys are fine, it's the rods and pistons that are weak. And it's not that they are weak, they just weren't designed for a turbo motor. They are cast, they are designed for a NA motor.

StuttersC
01-24-2003, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by Dexter


uh oh stutters...this isnt looking good for your 9psi cause... hehehe


Yeah, that's alright though...

Yes, I admit, I make mistakes too...:p
Rarely, but they do happen.

slug420
01-24-2003, 04:41 PM
http://www.mazdamp3.com/vbb225/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11850&pagenumber=2

go argue with I-Am-Chris about boost....see if he will take a picture for you.

mspeedpro
01-24-2003, 06:53 PM
obviously the engine can handle more boost. mazda is not going to mass-produce a car that is teetering on the edge of fast and damaging (which I would love to push it to). The car CAN OBVIOUSLY handle atleast some more boost without horrible problems, hey- what a new engine in a couple of years...

big_ben
01-24-2003, 06:56 PM
Like most of us said, it can easily handle 9psi. But no more or it will lose a considerable amount of it's life span.

sleeper_
02-02-2003, 05:50 PM
guys, as for the thought that it would make more business sense to have the boost increased already, it isn't true. It makes more business sense to "segment" the market in order to "squeeze" out as much money from the customers. In other words, the msp has a fair bit of power already and lots of mods to make it attractive, but then they supply "upgrades" that cost you more in the end than if the car already came with them. Simple business concept.

brokemp3
02-02-2003, 06:10 PM
bla bla bla buy a faaster car and stop crying

122 Vega
02-02-2003, 06:52 PM
StuttersC,

I have had a boost guage in my orange MSP for about two weeks now and it usually peaks (and holds) at .51 hkpa which equals 7.49 psi. With the stock air box in place it was consistenly .48 = 7.05 psi. Once in awhile, it will peak showing .54 = 7.93 psi. If you do want to see pics of the boost guage install, go to my website.

Britt

I-Am-Chris
02-02-2003, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by slug420
stock psi is exactly 6.9

one of the texas MSP owners got a boost gaueg right off the bat

Yeah .48 and sometimes .51 if the weathers right. I can post a pic to prove it.

122 Vega
02-02-2003, 08:55 PM
Ever since this morning, my MSP is running .56 and .57. I am not sure why. I added a ram air to my CAI box, but that was two days ago. I can also hear the turboe whining, not sppoling, but whining, and boosting up sooner.

Hmm...

Britt

I-Am-Chris
02-02-2003, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by StuttersC


Nice to hear, but unfortunately this has about as much truth to it as the "My mom works there and I saw a boost controller on the wall" crap...

WHERE IS THE PROOF?!? Pictures of it please...


Do you really want me to waste my time and take a picture of my boost gauge cause u dont believe me. Hear Ill hit the peak hold and show u! I havent installed my boost controller yet cause I dont have my A/F installed. I never said anything about mazda selling these parts. I'm with U. Thats like TRD selling a Greddy t78 kit for a Supra and Toyata installing it and Warr. it. Its just hipe. Yes they do sell Mazdaspeed parts at my Dealer. Do u want me to take a pic of those. They are all the stock parts off our car like the sway bars, shocks, spoiler, mats, and badges.

I-Am-Chris
02-02-2003, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by 122 Vega
Ever since this morning, my MSP is running .56 and .57. I am not sure why. I added a ram air to my CAI box, but that was two days ago. I can also hear the turboe whining, not sppoling, but whining, and boosting up sooner.

Hmm...

Britt

How cold is it there right now. Its anywhere 60-39 hear.

122 Vega
02-02-2003, 08:59 PM
It's about 45-55. But it was the same the past two weeks.

Britt

Limited Edition
02-02-2003, 09:12 PM
122 Vega..
is that avastar a picture of an ultrasound of your baby??
If it is.....CONGRADULATIONS!!! :D

122 Vega
02-02-2003, 09:15 PM
Yep, 18 weeks old and it already moves all it's fingers and toes and sucks it's thumb. It's simply amazing. It's my first, so it's a little wierd. I'm a nurse by trade, but it's different when it's yours, it's (he's) actually the reason I had to go buy a four door, god I hated that...jk

Thanks,

Britt

Limited Edition
02-02-2003, 09:29 PM
Thats simply amazing though....
Congradulations again!!! (2thumbs)

4 door MAZDASPEED? That's a nice family sedan though..you must admit! :D


P.S Everytime i try to get into your site, it never works...:confused:

StuttersC
02-03-2003, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by 122 Vega
StuttersC,

I have had a boost guage in my orange MSP for about two weeks now and it usually peaks (and holds) at .51 hkpa which equals 7.49 psi. With the stock air box in place it was consistenly .48 = 7.05 psi. Once in awhile, it will peak showing .54 = 7.93 psi. If you do want to see pics of the boost guage install, go to my website.

Britt

Calm down people...

Ok, I believe you since there are mulltiple people posting similar results.:p

slug420
06-05-2003, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by colin949
I whent into my moms work today and they had a wall full of all the mazdaspeed products that they are going to sell for the msp. They had boost controllers, exhausts, and full suspension kits.

HEY COLIN

OLE BUDDY OLE PAL!!!

HOW'S THAT WALL WORKIN OUT FOR YA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(k)