Mazda is still a Ford!!!

[WalksInDarkness]

(argh) Well, I guess even though it is built in Japan it still has has bad Ford quality. After only 2k miles, my 3 is in for it's first repair. Something called the "purge valve solenoid" (emissions equipment they say) needs to be replaced. I know it is under warranty, but it is still a hassle as it has to stay overnight as they don't have the part.

I have had many cars that have gone ~100k miles, with NO problems: Toyota Tacoma, Toyota Corolla, Honda Civic, Nissan Maxima, Hyundai Elantra (yes even a POS Hyundai had no issues).

I was always wary of the Mazda name, but I bought it because I definitely needed a HatchBack. And combined with excellent magazine reviews, I decided to take a chance.

I am hoping this is just a fluke. But if this becomes a monthly thing like my: Dodge, Chevy, Kia were, I will trade this thing in for a Camry.

One more thing: Does anyone have the Mazda factory "extended" warranty? Isn't part of it supposed to cover a "rental" car? I asked for a loner car, and of course they were all out. I will have to read the extended warranty when I get home.

[jersey_emt]

One little part breaks and you are complaining about Mazda reliability?

[goldwing2000]

The purge solenoid is a common, known problem. It's unfortunate but at least it's not unexpected. I don't think you'll have it in on any kind of regular basis, much less monthly. I've had my car 15 months and it's only been in for service twice and one of them was to replace a known faulty air bag sensor (recall).

My regular warranty has covered any rental cars I've needed. It might just be something that my dealer offers but there's never been a problem with transportation for either of the times I had my car in for service. Even the time they didn't warranty the work, they still provided a vehicle.

[Projekt Tuner]

Your warranty does cover a rental car... Seems like they tried to dodge giving you one by telling you they were out. When I worked at a dealer.. if the rental place was closed we just slapped a Dealer Plate on the back of a used car and sent the customer on their way. Can't let the dealer push you around man.. and I've been driving mazda's since I was 16... never had any major issues I didn't incur myself.


and btw.. trade in for a camry.. how friggin boring is that....

:-p

[RHAGEL]

You also have to realize that the 2.3 liter motor and the 3 itself are fairly new. New cars almost always have problems. I have had two Mazdas one was a 94' 626 V-6 5speed with 120k and have never had any reliability issues. Don't worry, you bought a great car. You could of had worse, think about what would happen if you bought a Jetta or GTI. You would be driving a rental so often, you would think it was your own car.

[JoSHMaN]

Well, its only one thing thats gone wrong, hopefully you won't have too much of anything else go wrong anytime soon. I wouldn't start complaining just yet.

I had a 2000 VW GTI and that thing was in the shop more times than I can count, I had about 25K miles on it and it started to become nothing but problems, All kinds of interior pieces broke like the glovebox and the armrest and a few other small things, the car went through 3 transmissions, (it was an auto) it went through several sensors, went through a few window regulators and the list goes on. I was so pissed about that car, I babied it and all it seemed to do was fall apart on me.

So at 50K I decided to trade it in for a 99 Audi A4. Audi's have thier share of issues as well, my A4 was good to me but damn expensive for maintenance and what few repairs I had done, but the miles were getting high and I ended up trading it for my Mazda 3 5-door.
I bought it with a little over 2K miles and it has 3500 on it now and its been great so far, I hope it stays that way. It reminds me a lot of my GTI.

[RODSCALIP5]

I have had 2 modded FORD ZX2's, both ran strong 75K +, I traded them in for a Protege 5 and Civic. There was nothing wrong with them, I just wanted to move up. I still don't understand why Ford gets all this sh*t from people, they are not bad cars if you take care of them, like any other car. I have a WRX now, I have had it serviced under warranty twice in the last 4 months. Sometimes sh*T happens.

[Protege52003]

i want a camry like everyone else.......(not!)

you can't compare mazda with ford....they are a much better built car than ford's are.

sorry to hear about your small problem but it was fixed....enjoy your mazda like I do....!

[Shiney_McShine]

[QUOTE=WalksInDarkness](argh) Well, I guess even though it is built in Japan it still has has bad Ford quality.............

................I was always wary of the Mazda name, but I bought it because I definitely needed a HatchBack. And combined with excellent magazine reviews, I decided to take a chance.
QUOTE]
Built on a Volvo platform.......

If you were wary, why? The Mazda3 is not the only HB on the market. My brother has a Mini that he has had to the dealer many times for nagging problems and he has to drive 2.5 hours to get to his dealer without complaint. As stated by a previous poster, the problem you experienced is due to growing pains of a new model. It's not major and the repair is free. Considering the relibility of cars thirty years ago, you are doing preety good.

[JOS3]

OMG ITZ A PIECE OF JUNK YOU NEVER SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT IT. YOU SHOULD TRADE IT IN IMMEDIATELY FOR A CAMRY BECASUE ITS THE MOST BORING CAR EVER BUILT. OMG HAXOR TRADE THAT FORZDA IN FOR A HEMI....

...whatever.....

[goldwing2000]

OMG ITZ A PIECE OF JUNK YOU NEVER SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT IT. YOU SHOULD TRADE IT IN IMMEDIATELY FOR A CAMRY BECASUE ITS THE MOST BORING CAR EVER BUILT. OMG HAXOR TRADE THAT FORZDA IN FOR A HEMI....

...whatever.....

Lighten up, Francis.

No need to get bent out of shape about it.

[M_3]

well not every car is perfect, mines i have been with it for a year and a half and nothing has happend, in fact i can be happier with my car

[WalksInDarkness]

Hah, I knew my post would cause some flame like replies. (flame) I was just ranting, I still think the 3 is the best "bang for the buck performance" car out there. I have just never had issues pop up so quickly before. It just seems weird to me, in this day and age of strict quality control. I guess $H!T happens, it just usually doesn't happen to me. But I do love the car, I just hope this doesn't become part of my routine.

As for the extended warranty rental: I called them back about it and she was like all annoyed "well yes, if you do have the warranty it's covered, but we have to wait until 2pm to see if the part comes in first". Seeing as they have all my info in the database, and it is a Mazda warranty, shouldn't she have looked up the info before she called to tell me my car was going to be there overnight? And if no that, when she tells me they are out of loaner cars, shouldn't she have asked me if I had the warranty? I guess I just expect too much customer service, seeing as I work in a business that deals with customers on a daily basis.

[goldwing2000]

Here's some perspective:

Recalls

Results : 2 | All records displayed
Make : TOYOTA Model : CAMRY Year : 2004
Manufacturer : TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC.
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number : 04V346000 Recall Date : JUL 08, 2004
Component: AIR BAGS:SIDE/WINDOW
Potential Number Of Units Affected : 128316

Check to Request Research. Submit below. Get Summary

Make : TOYOTA Model : CAMRY Year : 2004
Manufacturer : TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC.
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number : 04V595000 Recall Date : DEC 13, 2004
Component: SEAT BELTS:FRONT:BUCKLE ASSEMBLY
Potential Number Of Units Affected : 150061

Check to Request Research. Submit below. Get Summary

Plus there are 27 TSBs that I won't reprint here.

And this is on a car line that is... what... at least 20 years old.

The 2004 Mazda3 has 40 TSBs and only 1 recall. And that's a first year car.

I think we're doing pretty good, actually.

[M_3]

yo but complain tell them i dont care if you out of loaners car i need a freaking car to fgo arround and this is your fault for making a crappy car too if there is no loaners give me one of those new car cause i need somethign to go to work with and some more crap like that call the manager and everything and theyll give you something

[WalksInDarkness]

Well the dealer came through in the end. Since this is an admittedly common problem, my dealer has the part on automatic re-order and the part showed up today. So my car was in-and-out the same day, no-harm-no-foul (other tham me getting stressed out about my new car).

And I understand Goldwing's point about the recall. And I admit ALL cars have some problems, I understand this as a mechanical engineer. But to me a recall is different. From my perspective, a recall is the company admitting there is a problem and notifying the customer. Therefore, the customer can fix the problem on his own schedule. Also, with a recall the time in the shop is minimal, as the dealer knows what the problem is and likely has the part in stock. Anyhow, this is not a crazed rant (like my earlier posts) I am just expressing my opinion.

I am still a bit annoyed about the service lady giving me the hassle about the rental/loaner car issue though. Live and learn, hopefully I will remember the extended warranty policy next time.

[jflo]

to the comment about the volvo platform...it's not built on that. the mazda3 is an original mazda chassis, but ford decided to save money and reuse it on its new focus, and on volvo's newest small car

[M_3]

thats right

[JOS3]

Lighten up, Francis.

No need to get bent out of shape about it.


i made that post with one part humor, one part sarcasm, two parts irritation, and one part WTF.............

[dukefanmaz3]

to the comment about the volvo platform...it's not built on that. the mazda3 is an original mazda chassis, but ford decided to save money and reuse it on its new focus, and on volvo's newest small car


apperntly u dont have a clue, it is built on a volvo chassis and also has a bmw 3 supension, u need to do some research homey

[jflo]

oops, it's engine/trans and suspension tuning, not chassis. my bad.

[dukefanmaz3]

apperntly u dont have a clue, it is built on a volvo chassis and also has a bmw 3 supension, u need to do some research homey


i have also only bought mazda but my tranny is acting up already 5k miles what is the deal i love mazda i had a b3000 140k only had to replace the battery once, it was the most reliable car or truck i have ever owned

[dukefanmaz3]

oops, it's engine/trans and suspension tuning, not chassis. my bad.


cool beans, now what about the engine/ trans?

[Da 6]

if it makes you feel any better I had more things fall apart or explode on my car than you ;) Just keep yourself updated with the tsbs and if the dealership was good WDS updates. now imagine what if you never found this site, there are 40 things that the dealership could have pulled the the wool over your eyes about.

[jflo]

cool beans, now what about the engine/ trans?

the mzr2.3 is all i know right now...not too sure on the 2.0 in the mz3i

[ChiMSP]

F*ck this thred, I want my 3 mins back.

[RenzoMSP]

MAZDAS SUCK! YEAH!

[Da 6]

3.0 2.3 2.0 and 1.8 are all ford blocks...one 6 member got into an acident and found actual ford emblem hidden under the front support in the debris. Usualy all you find is "FoMoCo". The o-rings for the cartridge are ford with a mazda sticker on top of it. Hell just look under the dash and you just might find mitsubiti motors labels on some things.

[FreeStyLinDrive]

Back in the day, my parents bought a 93 Ford escort GT brand new off the lot. When my dad got it home and looked closer at the engine... it said Mazda on it. (headbang)

[Da 6]

correct. mazda probe gt

[FreeStyLinDrive]

correct. mazda probe gt

It wasn't a question.

[Da 6]

it was agreement...and anther example added.

[mobomelter]

hmm i haven't had any problems with my 3. i've put 18k miles on it since december, delivery pizza in it, do lots of burnouts, and drive really fast on back roads. of course i did the same to my focus and beyond recalls and one broken ignition i never had a problem.

[Mikey444]

As stated before and I will say it again, the Mazda 3 is still a relatively new car and only in it's first generation, small problems will happen, the current Mazda 6 is also in it's first generation going into it's second generation next year (2006 model). Things can only get better.

[goldwing2000]

i made that post with one part humor, one part sarcasm, two parts irritation, and one part WTF.............

I know. CAPS LOCK makes baby jesus cry, though.

[DE31]

3.0 2.3 2.0 and 1.8 are all ford blocks...one 6 member got into an acident and found actual ford emblem hidden under the front support in the debris. Usualy all you find is "FoMoCo". The o-rings for the cartridge are ford with a mazda sticker on top of it. Hell just look under the dash and you just might find mitsubiti motors labels on some things.haha found one of those when washing the engine in my protege its on the top left and its like 3mm around.

[peepsalot]

haha found one of those when washing the engine in my protege its on the top left and its like 3mm around.
VICS/VTCS solenoids

[goldwing2000]

And I understand Goldwing's point about the recall. And I admit ALL cars have some problems, I understand this as a mechanical engineer. But to me a recall is different. From my perspective, a recall is the company admitting there is a problem and notifying the customer. Therefore, the customer can fix the problem on his own schedule. Also, with a recall the time in the shop is minimal, as the dealer knows what the problem is and likely has the part in stock. Anyhow, this is not a crazed rant (like my earlier posts) I am just expressing my opinion.


That's why I also included TSB data. That's a known problem but it's not safety related, so they don't have to recall. The number of TSBs on a car is a good indicator of initial quality.

Look on the bright side: at least you just had an emissions issue. My girlfriend was driving her 2000 Taurus down the road (straight, smooth and level) and one of the front coil springs snapped in two. How's that for a quality issue?

[DE31]

VICS/VTCS solenoidsnever knew what it was still dont know what it does but at least i know where it is.(cabpatch)

[ChiMSP]

I know. CAPS LOCK makes baby jesus cry, though.
That's why it so funny (cabpatch)

[M_3]

yeah fo real

[J dragon]

Is there anything that Mazda didn't take from ford?(besides appearance) I mean Damn this upsets me!!!!*not like i didn't know beforehand..>_<*

[M_3]

yeah men cause i dont like ford's for nothing but i dont think they took everything from for.

anyways if something japanesse people do a better job.

[sajack]

The Hiroshima-built Mazdas: MX-5s, RX-8s, and Mazda3s are NOT Fords.
Mazda6s, Mazda Trucks, MPVs, are pretty Fordy.

[goldwing2000]

The Hiroshima-built Mazdas: MX-5s, RX-8s, and Mazda3s are NOT Fords.
Mazda6s, Mazda Trucks, MPVs, are pretty Fordy.

You haven't looked around and under your car much, have you? Just about every component I have been able to find has a little "FoMoCo" logo on it. Yes, it was assembled in Japan but the vast majority of parts are Ford parts.

See this thread:
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56563

[ChiMSP]

I saw a mitsubishi part on my MSP once...

[M_3]

well i dont care my car its still in exellent conditions and that is all that matters

[goldwing2000]

To their credit, none of the Ford parts are North American Ford parts.
Everything is from mostly India and Hungary.

[M_3]

well thats even better right??(uhm)

[goldwing2000]

well thats even better right??(uhm)

Having worked in Ford/Visteon plants for the past seven years, I can honestly say that yes, it is a very good thing.

[M_3]

uuuufffffffff.

relief.

[Da 6]

on 6club they proved the 2.3 was more ford than the 3.0! To reply to the mitsu parts..there are a few electrical parts thruought the entire car. Under the dash and under the hood are the known items. MAF is mitsu and a few other things I havent personaly discovered are as well. i wouldn't be suprised if vilm sensors weren't mitsu as well. Don't beleve me crawl under the dash one day and take a gander ;)

[Mike R]

Mitsubishi is also a semiconductor manufacturer. You'll find thier parts on almost EVERY car made today.

Who cares if it is a Ford? I've had less problems with my 10+ year old Fords then I have with my brand spanking new Protege.

And the guy the mentioned his B3000 as a reliable mazda- That is a rebadged ranger dude. You had a nice reliable Ford.

At least you guys aren't like the idiots that bough Honda Passports thinking they were actually Hondas. I remeber this one guy saying how he would never buy another Honda after owning the passport. I told him that he didn't buy one last time. Got knda pissed. The worst thing about the Rodeo's was that alot of the parts in those were General Motors-in fact they used Gm's 2.8L V6 for awhile.. LOL


Oh, and the 2.3L MZR has been around for a few years, it replaced the 1974 pinto motor in the rangers and is used in the Escapes and Tributes.

[Da 6]

wasn't the passports isuzu engines? didn't saturn vue redline get a honda V6 in trade for that new legend's GM V8? There are a lot of cars with so called compedaters parts in them. I see alot of I hate ford thats why got my mazda post on just about every mazda forum I see.

[Mike R]

Yep, exactly. The Passport was a rebaged rodeo.


Oh, and kinda liked that Mazda was a division of Ford. I love my Fords. Part of my decision to by it was that it was the same family.

[Da 6]

the good thing that came out of mazda not touching most of the engine is most of the ford suppliers can get us parts. intake and electronical stuff is what mazda touched for the engines. As I stated in a previous post somewhere on the net even the o rings for the cartridge system are ford with mazda stickers covering it up.

[M_3]

i dont care what brand is it as long as its reliable

[sajack]

You haven't looked around and under your car much, have you? Just about every component I have been able to find has a little "FoMoCo" logo on it. Yes, it was assembled in Japan but the vast majority of parts are Ford parts.

See this thread:
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56563

My SP3`s window sticker says 95% Japanese parts, regardless of the name on them.
Quality of Japanese-built Mazdas (Fords if you want to call them that), fit, finish, quality of materials is still superior to most Ford vehicles. I sat in a Tribute in the showroom the day we bought our SP3. I still got that cheap impression that I usually associate with Ford products, not as bad as a Crown Vic or Ranger, but still below par when compared to Mazda3 or RX-8.
The Mazda3 in my opinion is a better car than the Mazda6. CR thinks so too.
I`m not completely brand loyal. I`m also a Toyota owner and devotee, but bought the "3" because it outperforms the Corolla.
I`m on my second Miata. I`m glad Mazda is sticking to its roots with the `06 MX-5. Ford could have moved production to Dearborn and ruined the Miata.

[FreeStyLinDrive]

Do you think Ford's are totally made in America???? 75 percent of the parts are made outside of the U.S. and put together here. So you can say, A car that's a ford has international parents and was born in America. lol

[goldwing2000]

Took the words right out of my mouth.

sajak: I'm pretty sure your window sticker doesn't say "95% Japanese parts". It says "U.S./Canadian parts content: 0% Major sources of parts content: Japan: 80%"

At least that's what mine says.
http://home.comcast.net/~goldwing2000/PartsContent.jpg

I could be wrong but I can't see them altering that very much in one model year. And as FreeStylin said, just because it's Japanese, doesn't mean it's not Ford. As I mentioned in another thread, Ford parts are not necessarily bad parts. North American Ford parts probably are bad parts, though.

I've seen with my own eyes and heard from multiple first-hand sources how UAW plants build things. It's scary. (wow)

Also, have you ever seen a European, Asian or Australian Ford vehicle? Much different from North American ones. See the previous statement about UAW plants.

[sajack]

Took the words right out of my mouth.

sajak: I'm pretty sure your window sticker doesn't say "95% Japanese parts". It says "U.S./Canadian parts content: 0% Major sources of parts content: Japan: 80%"

I am holding my window sticker in my hand. It states:
Major Sources Of Foreign Parts Content: 95%
U.S./Canadian Parts Content: 0%

Final Assembly Point: Hiroshima, Japan
Country Of Origin:
Engine Parts: Japan
Transmission Parts: Japan

I realize that parts such as tires (which are only "Good for a Year", battery, belts, hoses, audio system, etc. could have come from anywhere.

Lots of Ford parts may be made in Japan; but I like the fact that this car was built (assembled, if you wish) in a country where the general work ethic is a little more focused (pun) than it is in this country.
Japan has caused the U.S. auto industry to shape up, but we are not there yet, IMHO.

I can remember a time when people joked about whether their American car was built on a Monday morning or a Friday afternoon. I hope those days have passed. But I still look around and see old Civics and Proteges and Corollas and compare them to Contours and Corsicas and Reliants; then rest assured that I`m still not ready for a Focus or Cobalt or Neon.

[M_3]

Took the words right out of my mouth.

sajak: I'm pretty sure your window sticker doesn't say "95% Japanese parts". It says "U.S./Canadian parts content: 0% Major sources of parts content: Japan: 80%"

At least that's what mine says.
http://home.comcast.net/~goldwing2000/PartsContent.jpg

I could be wrong but I can't see them altering that very much in one model year. And as FreeStylin said, just because it's Japanese, doesn't mean it's not Ford. As I mentioned in another thread, Ford parts are not necessarily bad parts. North American Ford parts probably are bad parts, though.

I've seen with my own eyes and heard from multiple first-hand sources how UAW plants build things. It's scary. (wow)

Also, have you ever seen a European, Asian or Australian Ford vehicle? Much different from North American ones. See the previous statement about UAW plants.

where is that sticker at i want to check it out

[RonH]

where is that sticker at i want to check it out


My sticker, that was on my new car window stated exactly the same thing.

Why do you doubt the facts?

[sajack]

My window sticker says 95% Japanese parts. My `04 Mazdaspeed MX-5 window sticker says 98%.
I have a scanner, but I`m not sure how to post it here. You guys can laugh, but I am not a computer person.
I use the internet and email, but have very limited computer skills.
You can always stop by a Mazda dealer and gaze at window stickers.
I don`t know if all `05 Mazda3s are of the same content or not.
This is really sort of a moot point to me. Point of assembly is what I usually look for, you know, VIN begins with a "J".

`05 Mazda3 SP23, Carbon Gray Mica (what else?) w/ Saddle Brown leather.
`04 Mazdaspeed MX-5 , Titanium Gray w/ red and black cloth

[Ddrop]

Most of the parts in my car that went bad (alt, starter, sensors and solenoids) all have the mitsu symbols on them...

[goldwing2000]

where is that sticker at i want to check it out

Ummm... it's the one on the window that has THE PRICE ON IT! (cool)

sajack: that's interesting. Now I wonder if it's because of the model year or because it's the SP23 package. (uhm)

[WalksInDarkness]

:mad: Well, perhaps my first crazed ranting post had some merit.
They "fixed" the car last week, and now the CEL is on AGAIN!
So, this means 1 of 3 things:
1) The same part went bad again? Which is a very BAD thing. It is very easy to pull bad parts off the shelf if they know about a defect. I know this, I work in an industry that supply electronic components to the auto manufacturers.
2) A different part went bad? Again a VERY BAD thing, I don't have time to bring my car into the dealer to be fixed every week.
3) The Mazda dealer Mechanic is a crackhead? Still within Mazda's control they should have a better system of training and diagnosis protocol to find CEL faults more accurately.
I hope this is another isolated incident, but it is getting me really stressed out! :mad:

[goldwing2000]

Does that particular dealer sell any other makes?

[sajack]

Ummm... it's the one on the window that has THE PRICE ON IT! (cool)

sajack: that's interesting. Now I wonder if it's because of the model year or because it's the SP23 package. (uhm)

Content might vary from day-to-day or week-to-week. Who knows?
I`m more concerned about the #^&*$ Good -for -a -Year tires than the parts in the car. The Special Edition really deserved a good set of high performance tires from Toyo, Yokohama, Michelin, or somebody. The mushy all-season stuff is for grandmothers.

[peepsalot]

:mad: Well, perhaps my first crazed ranting post had some merit.
They "fixed" the car last week, and now the CEL is on AGAIN!
So, this means 1 of 3 things:
1) The same part went bad again? Which is a very BAD thing. It is very easy to pull bad parts off the shelf if they know about a defect. I know this, I work in an industry that supply electronic components to the auto manufacturers.
2) A different part went bad? Again a VERY BAD thing, I don't have time to bring my car into the dealer to be fixed every week.
3) The Mazda dealer Mechanic is a crackhead? Still within Mazda's control they should have a better system of training and diagnosis protocol to find CEL faults more accurately.
I hope this is another isolated incident, but it is getting me really stressed out! :mad:
Did you get the exact CEL code number from the first time?
Autozone will read and clear codes for free, very convenient for a second opinion or if you just want to know the problem without taking it to the dealer. The ones around here are open till 11pm, so the hours are very accessible and you don't have to wait in line as much as a dealership.

[WalksInDarkness]

Does that particular dealer sell any other makes?

Yep, they sell other FoMoCo cars, Licoln-Mercury. The dealer has decent reputation, they have a chain of dealerships in the area. They supposedly sell about 50 Mazda3 in a good month, just at the one location alone. So I think they are fairly familiar with the cars.
I don't know, maybe I am just having crap luck with this car (maybe just the odds after having so much good luck with other vehicles).

-Will

[goldwing2000]

W-I-D: Maybe it's just coincidence but the dealer I've had all my problems with is also a Lincoln-Mercury dealer. Hmmmm...

sajak: I hear ya on those tires. Mine lasted less than a year. They were gone in 15k miles. The Kumhos are doing much better. Almost 10k on them and no visible wear plus better wet, dry and snow performance.

[M_3]

My sticker, that was on my new car window stated exactly the same thing.

Why do you doubt the facts?


i wasnt doubting the facts i was just curious.

[M_3]

Ummm... it's the one on the window that has THE PRICE ON IT! (cool)

sajack: that's interesting. Now I wonder if it's because of the model year or because it's the SP23 package. (uhm)


too bad for me i dont have that thing anymore

[M_3]

W-I-D: Maybe it's just coincidence but the dealer I've had all my problems with is also a Lincoln-Mercury dealer. Hmmmm...

sajak: I hear ya on those tires. Mine lasted less than a year. They were gone in 15k miles. The Kumhos are doing much better. Almost 10k on them and no visible wear plus better wet, dry and snow performance.


also i have my falken they only have like 2k but they are really good

[charles]

(second) Hey my subaru just randomly stalled in the middle of the freeway multiple times and the dealer couldn't fix it. Beat that.

[M_3]

what year is it

[charles]

2003

[M_3]

and they wont fix it thats so mess up and what exactly did they say it was

[charles]

The first dealer didn't know what it was. So I drove it 80 miles to a much better dealer. They couldn't replicate the problem but they had a hunch that it was the main relay. One month later and the car hasn't stalled again. They also fixed the first gear syncro that the other dealer said was normal. Thank god. If nobody could fix it though I would have to sell the car. Having it stall randomly is unacceptable.

[M_3]

off course men also is a new car but im glad they fixed it, also how many hp you running

[charles]

It is stock. 227hp.

[M_3]

thats nice men its took me a freaking turbo to get those numbers well your is turbo stock thou but its fast, and wich one is the one 300 hp stock sti or somethingg like that

[Da 6]

Did you get the exact CEL code number from the first time?
Autozone will read and clear codes for free, very convenient for a second opinion or if you just want to know the problem without taking it to the dealer. The ones around here are open till 11pm, so the hours are very accessible and you don't have to wait in line as much as a dealership. Autozone uses can bus? I thought that was pepboys but for $19.99. Some state inspections fail the cars cause they themselves can't read can bus. 03 and up mazda/ford thing

[M_3]

i think its autozone for free too