225 tires too wide?

[Shiney_McShine]

Too much tire for a small car. Unless you increase the horsepower by a lot.........

[goldwing2000]

Too much tire for a small car. Unless you increase the horsepower by a lot.........

Since I can easily over-power the stock 205s in the corners, I have to emphatically disagree with you.
Horsepower has little bearing on cornering traction.

[Shiney_McShine]

Since I can easily over-power the stock 205s in the corners, I have to emphatically disagree with you.
Horsepower has little bearing on cornering traction.Overpower? Specious reasoning. Sounds more like a skills issue. Just because you can make the car lose adhesion does not mean you need more tire. It means you need to slow down.

Remember, slow in and fast out.

[RedRaptor]

Thread crapping. Let's keep this thread to RX8 wheels please.

McShine: If you don't like the 225 tires, then just started your own thread, k?

[goldwing2000]

Overpower? Specious reasoning. Sounds more like a skills issue. Just because you can make the car lose adhesion does not mean you need more tire. It means you need to slow down.

Remember, slow in and fast out.

Ok... since you claim that my personal experience is "specious reasoning" and my skills are lacking, can you provide anything other than your opinion to support your position?

PM me or start a new thread.

[Shiney_McShine]

Thread crapping. Let's keep this thread to RX8 wheels please.

McShine: If you don't like the 225 tires, then just started your own thread, k?
Gosh, all I did was state my opinion.....Mr Schumacher here chose to question my opinion(no problem with that) and I responded. You are welcome to skip this portion.

[Shiney_McShine]

Ok... since you claim that my personal experience is "specious reasoning" and my skills are lacking, can you provide anything other than your opinion to support your position?

PM me or start a new thread.
Yeah....The mere fact that you think a 160 BHP car can overpower the tires.

[goldwing2000]

Yeah....The mere fact that you think a 160 BHP car can overpower the tires.

As I already stated, "Horsepower has little bearing on cornering traction."

The European Lotus Elise only has 118hp. Should it have 155 tires, maybe?

Try again.

[Shiney_McShine]

As I already stated, "Horsepower has little bearing on cornering traction."

The European Lotus Elise only has 118hp. Should it have 155 tires, maybe?

Try again.
And it weighs how much?

Look, as I said before, I am not picking a fight here. I just stated that the 205/50/17 are more then adequate for "normal" driving conditions. If you feel the need to push the limit, then by all means get the larger tire. I just don't see anyone that drives their car that hard, that much to necessitate a larger tire. by adding the larger tire, you are increasing the unsprung weight which can be punitive in both straignt line and cornering.

[Fobby_Monkey]

depending on what rims and tires you get, it can actually weight less then your 17's stock.

[goldwing2000]

depending on what rims and tires you get, it can actually weight less then your 17's stock.

Exactly.

[goldwing2000]

And it weighs how much?

Look, as I said before, I am not picking a fight here. I just stated that the 205/50/17 are more then adequate for "normal" driving conditions. If you feel the need to push the limit, then by all means get the larger tire. I just don't see anyone that drives their car that hard, that much to necessitate a larger tire. by adding the larger tire, you are increasing the unsprung weight which can be punitive in both straignt line and cornering.

You never said anything about weight before. You just said HP.
So are you now agreeing that there are other factors that influence a decision on tire size??

Imagine that.

[Shiney_McShine]

You never said anything about weight before. You just said HP.
So are you now agreeing that there are other factors that influence a decision on tire size??

Imagine that.
(deadhorse

Power to weight ratio?

[goldwing2000]

(deadhorse

Power to weight ratio?

Ahhhh... see, NOW we're having the beginnings of an intelligent discussion. (thumb)

Basically, there are a number of factors involved in choosing a tire size for your vehicle, even including appearance. A tire that's too wide for you may not be too wide for someone else. Agreed?

[M_3]

thats so true, maybe he new that buti guess you guys just started in the wrong foot.

[GimmeA3S]

Gees...lots of strong opinions out there... Anyway, I have a set of 225-45-17s on 17x7.5 wheels w/ 42 offset and I love the way my car drives and handles. Occasionally if I take a left turn too fast onto a side street and there's a dip, I hear a brief rub on the right front, but I can't find the spot it's rubbing on, so there's no damage - I just have to take greater care on dips and train tracks, and all is well. That extra width made a world of difference in how this car corners - it seems almost impossible to break it loose. Acceleration is better off the line, as they aren't so quick to break loose.

I would suggest that if you haven't bought wheels yet, maybe go with a narrower wheel, or greater offset to bring it further inside the fender - my front tires actually stick out beyond the fender lip by about a centimeter.

[Protege52003]

Gees...lots of strong opinions out there... Anyway, I have a set of 225-45-17s on 17x7.5 wheels w/ 42 offset and I love the way my car drives and handles. Occasionally if I take a left turn too fast onto a side street and there's a dip, I hear a brief rub on the right front, but I can't find the spot it's rubbing on, so there's no damage

you have to drop your ride now although i bet you will get some serious rubbing then....those rims look nice on your car....

[GimmeA3S]

I hear that a lot....something about the way the car was sitting on that slope made it look like it sits higher than it really does. When sitting on level ground, wheel gap isn't as pronounced. I've given it some thought, and I just can't justify spending all the money required for a drop, to lose an inch of height and have the car become even less "city street friendly" than it already is - I'd be replacing front fenders for sure if the rubbing got any worse. Thanks for the compliment though...

[Protege52003]

^^^

n/p, those rims are sharp and look great on your 3

[Fobby_Monkey]

Your tires doesn't rub at all GimmeA3S?

[ag bullet]

I have 225/45ZR17 on my wheels (17x7.5 48mm offset). No rubbing and the car is planted in turns. Tires are way stickier than the stock and I feel the added width plays a part of that as well.

http://pic13.picturetrail.com/VOL487/135343/5072665/93770294.jpg

[GimmeA3S]

ag bullet, I'm confused....how'd you get that grille on an SP23? Did you do surgery?

[M_3]

yeah for real

[wongpres]

ag bullet retrofitted the grille, see his How-To here:

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86751

[Protege52003]

I have 225/45ZR17 on my wheels (17x7.5 48mm offset). No rubbing and the car is planted in turns.
http://pic13.picturetrail.com/VOL487/135343/5072665/93770294.jpg

those look great on your 3......

[M_3]

yeah it looks very nice

[GimmeA3S]

I'd like to do the opposite....I LOVE the horizontal slat grille on the S - looks way more integrated and high-end. I have to use a small screwdriver and an armor-all soaked rag to get the water stains, etc out of my grille - hate it.

[M_3]

what is the size of our stock tires

[goldwing2000]

what is the size of our stock tires

Too lazy to go out and look, eh? (alright)

[M_3]

ohhhh but since i change them they are not the same size

[goldwing2000]

But the stock size is still listed on the door frame sticker. (thumb)






It's 205/50-17

[M_3]

ohh thanks men, sometimes i think i know about cars and then i dont know the most stupid things about it.