FMIC: Hiboost vs. MAM

[yashart_mp3]

Hey everyone, I have been doing a lot of research on the two and dont really see any advantage with one over the other. MAM includes slim line fans and an intake, but are the fans a necessity? Maybe they are for clearance for the new, larger pipes, but is it really needed? Hiboost retains the stock fans and works just as efficient. The mam fmic cost around $1,500 not including the upgraded bov. The Hiboost kit cost $900 (not including an upgraded bov). You can still buy an injen intake and save $350 over the MAM fmic. I know MAM makes great quality stuff, but so does Hiboost...

I currently have a mp3, but will be trading it in for a msp within the next couple of weeks. Just doing my research now :) Any input would be greatly appreciated! thanks

[pdhaudio83]

check the size of the core on each. The bigger more efficent core will see bigger gains.

[Striker187]

some members have had overheating issues with an fmic. the fans will keep this under control....though i don't know if you'll have overheating issues up in jersey.

[mspeed101]

MAM hands down. It includes a fmic, intake, bpv, and slimmer fans. You definetly get what you pay for!

[JCell]

I agree, although i have never seen the hi boost, the MAM kit i saw was sweet

[505zoom]

The big difference is the piping and the core... you can use a bigger radiator with the Mental Addiction kit and there is also fewer bends and a straighter path. The Garrett core is the best on the market today.

[TigrMsP]

http://student.claytonstate.net/~csu19277/front-mount.jpg

There's a pic of the Hiboost installed on my car. I've never had any overheating issues and I'm in Georgia. Great kit all around, and would highly recommend it. Fairly easy install also, no cutting required at ALL. Me and a couple friends got it done one night, and none of us had experience installing intercoolers or turbos for that matter.

Got mine through Chris at SPD, he's easier to get into contact with than Juan.

[CChris704]

personally i am probably going to do hiboost once i get the funds. illinois doens't get overly hot very often so I doubt I'll have overheating probs... also for my goals it seems more cost efficient to do a hiboost over a MAM while the MAM does look amazing. if you got the money i'd say go MAM but if you are a broke college student looking for a great product... hiboost.

[Aricjm15]

how could having an FMIC cause over heating problems?, thats the dumbest shit I have heard all night, your not messing with the radiator or putting somthing infront of it to block the air flow to it.

both kits are comparable performance wise unless your looking to make UBER horsepower, then the mam will help out. if you ordered the MAM kit today you would get it alot sooner than the HiBoost unless you find someone that has that HiBoost in stock, Juan is not easy to get ahold of, and he also does not shit things out the fastest, things also have to go though customs and what not being that he is in columbia

[505zoom]

how could having an FMIC cause over heating problems?, thats the dumbest shit I have heard all night, your not messing with the radiator or putting somthing infront of it to block the air flow to it...

Umh actually, you ARE putting something in front of the radiator... that big ass lower hole that is on the front of your car feeds air to the radiator. Put a FMIC in there that blocks the hole, then yes the radiator and condensor will see less air.

That is not the biggest part of it though... when you remove the stock SMIC on the msp, the stock primary fan is no longer doing any good because it is half hanging off the side of the radiator. Airflow will travel through the path of least resistance, so the fan will draw air from AROUND the radiator instead of THROUGH it.

Add those together, and yes you can easily have overheating problems from adding a FMIC to the MSP. Turboge was the first one to notice the problem, he was running the haltech with a coolant temp sensor and the iON FMIC. Here is a link to one of his threads about it: http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31260

[Aricjm15]

hmm interesting, I can see the deal with the fans, but there is still alot of air going through the top grill,

[505zoom]

hmm interesting, I can see the deal with the fans, but there is still alot of air going through the top grill,

Most definitely, that is why pretty much everyone gets away with it without any major problems (that and the fact that the stock temp gauge is worthless and people don't know that the car is hotter than normal:)).

With a proper fan setup, the upper grill will be more than enough to keep the car cool. It's just the combination of blocking some of the air and then also making the primary fan worthless that makes it sketchy for us MSP'ers.

[Aricjm15]

Most definitely, that is why pretty much everyone gets away with it without any major problems (that and the fact that the stock temp gauge is worthless and people don't know that the car is hotter than normal:)).

With a proper fan setup, the upper grill will be more than enough to keep the car cool. It's just the combination of blocking some of the air and then also making the primary fan worthless that makes it sketchy for us MSP'ers.
gotta love those "it will make them happy" gauges car companys put in cars

[505zoom]

gotta love those "it will make them happy" gauges car companys put in cars

Haha, no doubt.

[CChris704]

water temp guage is the guage you would want to monitor that then right?

[505zoom]

water temp guage is the guage you would want to monitor that then right?

Yessir.

[FSDET]

things also have to go through customs and what not being that he is in columbia
say what ?

[yashart_mp3]

wow, never even thought about the radiator fans. Even though I will probably never run into overheating issues up here in NJ, MAM sounds like the way to go. Thanks for all the input everyone!

[mspeed101]

wow, never even thought about the radiator fans. Even though I will probably never run into overheating issues up here in NJ, MAM sounds like the way to go. Thanks for all the input everyone!good choice (thumb)

[LinuxRacr]

Most definitely, that is why pretty much everyone gets away with it without any major problems (that and the fact that the stock temp gauge is worthless and people don't know that the car is hotter than normal:)).

With a proper fan setup, the upper grill will be more than enough to keep the car cool. It's just the combination of blocking some of the air and then also making the primary fan worthless that makes it sketchy for us MSP'ers.

This is true. Your stock water temp gauge will pretty much stay in the middle range from about 145 F all the way to about 227 F when you are starting to overheat. At about 235 F you are about 3/4 up on the gauge, and we all know that 235 F is DAMN hot! 212 F is boiling of course, and you want your temps below that. Some like Braden (Turboge) have noted with a bigger FMIC, that the temps approach 222 F.