Apex Motorsports Blow Off Valve Kit

[bigcc63]

Apex Motorsports Blow Off Valve Kit: Mazdaspeed Protege w/Greddy Type RS B.O.V
Have you guys heard of this? I have been searching around for hard pipes, BOV's, so this so far seems like my best bet as far as price.....
http://www.apexr1.com/noname8.html


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[laracroft]

humph. Sounds good... looks good. My greddy BOV is on my hard pipes along with another one connected to my bypass valve. But if I didnt have hard pipes, I'd probably consider this.


Looks good, all the connections appear to be correct. If I didnt have hard pipes and such, I probably would've considered this a while back. The only potential problem I see in the future is when you decide to get the hard pipes and FMIC. But unless you plan on forgoing that and staying with what you have, ask them about how that works with that option later on down the road.

[Striker187]

interesting, but i don't like how the air will have to make two 180 degree turns to get back to the intake. other than that it looks good.

[ZenProtege]

I think they should sell the red piece w/ in the pic individually w/ your choice of flange for those who want a different bov. other than that it looks good

[CChris704]

looks like a definate solid alternative to hardpipes and for people who want to get a bov

[bigcc63]

So I wrote to them asking a few questions, like do you have to have a cold air intake. This is what he wrote to me. He also sent more pics.



Thanks for checking out our stuff, we really appreciate it. The kit is 100% bolt on. We have only tested this on cars with injen and aem intakes, we arent sure if it will fit with a factory air box. We just released this product about 2 days ago and we have had many orders already for it already. I will include some more pics for you. If you have any more questions please dont hesitate to ask.
Thanks

[laracroft]

Looks kick ass with the red Injen on there. Like I said, as an alternative to hard pipes for the moment, I would consider it if it were me.

[b00sted]

looks good bro

[Wha'Happened]

looks pretty awesome. I wonder how the Greddy Type-RS sounds. This might be the route I go because I was planning on going with an aftermarket side-mount intercooler anyways.

[b00sted]

well they way they have it setup in the pic, you wouldnt hear any kind of blow off sound because its recirculating

[EnjoyMinuteMaid]

You honestly believe you wouldn't hear any blow-off valve sound? (boobs2)

[b00sted]

yes :D..maybe youd hear a turkey if anything. if u wanna hear the bov sound just make it not recirculate. mine doesnt recirculate and it sounds great...no stalling either

[laracroft]

The BOV can be adjusted for sound. You WILL hear SOMETHING. lol

[laracroft]

I plan on doing a sound bite later this evening on my set-up. May have to find a way to have it hosted though...

[Ryoga28]

(peep) I prefer the turkey.

[b00sted]

yea but u wont hear anything if you have it setup like it is in the pic...where that black hose its attached to the greddy...the 'sound' is just gonna travel thru that and back into the intake.....no sound :D

[bigcc63]

I emailed that guy back asking about the sound and he said 'the sound is kinda hard to explain'. So he said later this afternoon he was going to get a sound clip and email to me. I'll post when I get it.............

[b00sted]

im tellin u dude...its not gonna make any sound if its setup like in the pic. its a nice kit though! i would buy it. if you want the sound, just dont connect that black hose to the greddy, and plug up that hole to the intake. :D thats what i would do cuz i like hearing that sound

[TheJohnny]

definately won't fit with stock airbox, no way, no how... the stock pipe that goes into the airbox goes right where the BOV is. Anyway, the price is pretty good considering that the BOV is $178 and the flange is $28 so your at $216, then the cost to attach the flange to the custom pipe and bracket is only $60 and you get it painted. Not a bad deal at all if you go this route. I would love to hear it attached to a hardpipe on the hot side, would and should sound pretty damn good if you vent out, but if you re-circ it the rubber hose will deaden the sound and you may hear something but probably not anything loud. I could be way off on this but this is what I think...thanks for reading all of this.... :)

Ok, it may work with stock pipes but you would have to move is at near as possible to the hot side pipe as possible and then the bracket they have wouldn't work but it would probably fit the stock airbox, just cut some hose from Home Depot and move it right next to the hotside stock pipe and it should work, but beware, that close to it means alot of weight on that little nipple and we all know what that means... it's going to break that tit right off of there...... so if you go with this you have to have an INJEN or AEM or something that allows for it's location. (bowdown)

[bigcc63]

:D thats what i would do cuz i like hearing that sound

I like the sound too, so if it doesn't 'pssh' I don't want it..........

[b00sted]

I like the sound too, so if it doesn't 'pssh' I don't want it..........

lol bro..listen, you should get it and not connect that black hose u see going into the greddy (the top part where its chrome with the black hose) dont connect that part and youll hear the sound just fine :D

[bigcc63]

lol bro..listen, you should get it and not connect that black hose u see going into the greddy (the top part where its chrome with the black hose) dont connect that part and youll hear the sound just fine :D

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh
Cause thats what you said before........ (spin)

[b00sted]

lol bingo!

[EnjoyMinuteMaid]

but would there be stalling?

[b00sted]

not if u set it up right...i dont get any stalling whatsoever but i also have dual valve setup

[EnjoyMinuteMaid]

but does this system eliminate the stock bpv?

[TheJohnny]

it wouldnt' stall because your putting the air back into the system.

Yes it eliminates the stock BPV.

[b00sted]

yea it looks like it replaces the stock bpv..which is probably why they have it recirculating (no sound) thats why if u have dual setup (stock bpv and bov) it wont stall because it recirculates AND blows off. so i guess if u get this kit, youre gonna have to have it recirculate...or u can just get hardpipes and have it setup for dual setup.

heres a link that shows how to install bov on stock pipes..i did this on my car and had this setup for about a year and everything worked fine. this how-to uses an hks bov but its the same thing for greddy

http://www.msprotege.com/vbb230/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47267

[JDM Sam]

Just get the full hot side hot pipe made. That stock plastic pipe is the worse piece of shit ever made. Your spending $75 for an adapter. You can get a full hot side T6 alum pipe with 4- Tbolts,2- 4 ply couplers, and the Authentic Greddy flange for about $220. It will sound 20 times better and you won't have to worry about leaks from the plastic fitting that breaks off. Trust me I made an adapter for the stock pipe long ago and switched to a hard pipe setup and the sound and performance is night and day.

[EnjoyMinuteMaid]

what's your set up? i'm guessing bov on the hotpipe...venting to atmosphere? recirc? dual setup?

[speedhawaii]

i would say hardpipes is a better option but atleast there is a bigger market.

[yllw035msp]

i've been looking around a bit and can't find the answer, i just got the forge bov and have had the same problems of almost stalling when staying in neutral, would changing the stock pipes to hardpipes get rid of the wanting to stall or would it do nothing and i will have to do a bov/bpv set up? all i really got the bov for is the sound and i know getting hardpipes will fix this but i also don't want the hassle of the stalling issue.

[TheJohnny]

i've been looking around a bit and can't find the answer, i just got the forge bov and have had the same problems of almost stalling when staying in neutral, would changing the stock pipes to hardpipes get rid of the wanting to stall or would it do nothing and i will have to do a bov/bpv set up? all i really got the bov for is the sound and i know getting hardpipes will fix this but i also don't want the hassle of the stalling issue.

I couldn't even hear the forge BOV without upgrading to a hardpipe on the hotside. Once I had the hardpipe on I never even came close to stalling..

[Wha'Happened]

so hardpipes+bov is probably the ideal solution then. The Apex deal sounds good, but I would pay a little more for hardpipes, if that gets rid of stalling when you are venting to the atmosphere.

[TheJohnny]

Ok, check this out, this has worked for some:

Hotside hardpipe and Greddy BOV venting to atmosphere: no stalling
Hotside hardpipe and Forge BOV venting to atmosphere: no stalling

there are threads about these out there and one on how to properly tune the Greddy. I personally had the Forge with a hardpipe and no stalling at all and a very nice pssst sound.....

[MSP#735]

that is a nice set-up! i personally am searching for hard pipes (hott pipe atleast) any ideas or sellers?

[EnjoyMinuteMaid]

Ok, check this out, this has worked for some:

Hotside hardpipe and Greddy BOV venting to atmosphere: no stalling
Hotside hardpipe and Forge BOV venting to atmosphere: no stalling

there are threads about these out there and one on how to properly tune the Greddy. I personally had the Forge with a hardpipe and no stalling at all and a very nice pssst sound.....

there is no question that venting a bov to the atmosphere will make the cool psst/woosh sound. But did you keep your bpv and recirculating as well? It seems like simply having a bov venting to atmosphere (no bpv at all) stalls for some, but not for others. Does anyone have a clue why besides every car is slightly different? (group)

[jflo]

it depends on how the BOV is adjusted. you gotta be very meticulous when adjusting the BOV's screws

[Fede_italiano]

guys,

I know it may sounds obvious, but does the warranty expires if we change to hard pipes and BOV?

thanks

[gen1pro]

Forgive me for this stupid question (but I am new to all of this). Is there any way to run this setup with our stock bpv so that you get the sound and no stalling.

[EnjoyMinuteMaid]

Forgive me for this stupid question (but I am new to all of this). Is there any way to run this setup with our stock bpv so that you get the sound and no stalling.

yes there is, do a search for dual setup or dual bov/bpv

[TheJohnny]

Forgive me for this stupid question (but I am new to all of this). Is there any way to run this setup with our stock bpv so that you get the sound and no stalling.

There are ways of running a dual setup, but by looking at this one it wouldn't quite work. You cannot run both a BPV and a BOV on the same line, if you did I would imagine you would have to put the BOV before the BPV that way it would bleed off some air and whatever else makes it by can leak back into the system, but I don't really see that way as functional.

There are many people that put a BOV on the cold side pipe up near the throttle body or at least nearest to it as they can, then they leave the stock hot side BPV where it is and they have no problems with stalling at all.

Yeah, some people will stall with the same exact setup as others that don't stall, welcome to the world of the Mazdaspeed.

My dealer told me once that I could put on hardpipes and that's it, no BOV no different BPV but hardpipes were ok. The understood that the stock pipes here in Vegas were breaking on a few cars and told some others they could do that if they wanted. Get it in writing from the Service Manager.

[bigcc63]

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Sounds like more turkey to me..........

[b00sted]

ill take a soundclip of mine today and post it so u can hear if u want. mine sounds perfect

[laracroft]

I sold my Forge BOV to a guy over the weekend that has a second gen turbo Subaru. He's had no problems stalling yet like I had on mine. Go figure.

[b00sted]

i dont think ive ever stalled cuz of my bov

[CChris704]

before the dual bpv/bov setup, i stalled like crazy

[b00sted]

yea ive always had dual setup..probably why ive never stalled

[exNeon]

i was looking at this too, sent the an email they said it alone wouldnt get rid of the turkey, but would reduce it.

[Earful]

The sound clip in the first post...definate turkey reduction...

[jestermsp]

i vent it with a single valve setup tapped off the brake booster ive never stalled n rpms drop to 800 and stay there. blows off pretty damn loud.

[Bakum]

I will have the dual setup soon. Keeping the Stock BPV from the hot side, and having a BOV mounted on a hardpipe on the cold side. Would it be better to use the brake booster line for the BOV or just "T" off the stock BPV line. I already have a "T" connecting the stock BPV to a boost guage, and I don't want to overuse one line. thanks.

[jestermsp]

the bov should always have a dedicated vac. source. so yes id tap off the bb. plus the valve will be twice as loud.

[yonny3]

what exactly is the hard pipe?

[orng1]

A hard pipe is a metal intercooler pipe.

[mr2 II]

who made them ^^ and where can i get one??? thx

[msp2003.5]

who made them ^^ and where can i get one??? thx
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[mr2 II]

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