Calling Unichip Users

[poboxjosh]

WHat other Performance mods do you Unichip guys have done?


FMIC, BOV, Corksport Catless, Corksport DP(on the way), Injen CAI. 10psi

[UnNaturalinc]

Are you just wondering what people have, or are you looking for specific info?

My main engine upgrades are CS turbo back exhaust and Injen intake.

[poboxjosh]

Im wondering what people have and i want to know what kind of #'s they put up with what they have. If anyone has dynoed with UNIchip. I also want to know if anyone has had the unichip reprogramed to match there mods.

[Paul]

where are u guys getting your unichip from? and how much?

[poboxjosh]

I got mine from corksport but I paid just under 800

[warrier04]

does CS (corksport) still sell them? i thought they were having a 'final blowout' sale a while back or something ..

http://www.corksport.com/main.php3?primNavIndex=0&mainURL=%2Fstore%2Findex.php3%3Fcat%3D220746

go about a 1/3 of the way down the page .. CS PS tuner computer ..

[warrier04]

I got mine from corksport but I paid just under 800

how did you get it for just under 800? some kind of sale going on?

[UnNaturalinc]

My car did 248hp (crank) with intake and exhaust.http://unichip.us/DynoPics/356.jpg

I sell the Unichip units through HorsepowerFreaks, we sell them at $867.


Hey Warrier, you answered both your own questions.

[Professor MSP]

If you look at my signature you will see all the modifications that I have made to my car, including the price paid for said modification. I started this thread – http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=100130 – about a month ago, which reports on my experience at a local tuning shop. Also included are my wheel and crank hp and torque estimates.

Hope this proves useful.

[atticus1398]

UniChip
CS catless exhaust
Injen
Custom_msp SMIC
Turbohoses Hardpipes
AWR MM
Dynoed over the winter WITHOUT the boost controller at 175whp.
Just installed EBC and would love to dyno. Feels like 30+ extra whp.
Wheels break loose in third now.

[FBI14]

does CS (corksport) still sell them? i thought they were having a 'final blowout' sale a while back or something ..

..

They were having an end of the year sale not a blowout sale

[JCell]

what the hell does a anichip do anyway? beside increase boost

[low_psi]

it tunes your car :) its just like any other piggyback ems, except Unichip leaves the tuning to authorized people, not any ole' joe-schmoe w/ a laptop.

[apocman]

it tunes your car :) its just like any other piggyback ems, except Unichip leaves the tuning to authorized people, not any ole' joe-schmoe w/ a laptop.

True, but I feel that should be a decision made by the owner not the company...

[FBI14]

then get a MPI piggy back

[apocman]

then get a MPI piggy back

Already have the MPI, just waiting to get it installed :)

[mazdaspeed75]

Already have the MPI, just waiting to get it installed :)hurry up its like day and night . I finally got my boost controller to hold 10 10 1/2 psi man its crazy now .

[atticus1398]

mine is hitting 12 then settling at 10.5-11psi

[UnNaturalinc]

mine is hitting 12 then settling at 10.5-11psi

It's mapped to do that.

[atticus1398]

it pulls like a dentist, but i can literally hear my rods screaming in pain.
gonna need a clutch soon too!
was thinking of a shortblock and having ebc reprogramed to 14 or 15.

[FBI14]

It's mapped to do that.

will it still do that if you use a different EBC that what is supplied (i.e. greddy profec Type S)

[UnNaturalinc]

will it still do that if you use a different EBC that what is supplied (i.e. greddy profec Type S)

The Unichip is not going to control an aftermarket EBC. You would have to map it.

That is the point of the Unichip. You plug it in and don't think about it again.

[FBI14]

The Unichip is not going to control an aftermarket EBC. You would have to map it.

That is the point of the Unichip. You plug it in and don't think about it again.

No I understand that but if you set a Greddy EBC to 10 PSI and turn the upped boost switch on than will you still peak at 12 or just to 10?

[atticus1398]

with forged internals, i would want to up the boost. so, instead of spending $300 on a greddy, i could pay my local authorized unichip tuner $100 to change settings on my unichip ebc and also correct or tweak any part of the map.

[JCell]

would the dealer know that there was a unichip installed?

[atticus1398]

would the dealer know that there was a unichip installed?

theyd probably notice the boost controller.
i ran mine without ebc for a few monthes and enjoyed the smoothness and no hesitation or spark cut.

[FBI14]

with forged internals, i would want to up the boost. so, instead of spending $300 on a greddy, i could pay my local authorized unichip tuner $100 to change settings on my unichip ebc and also correct or tweak any part of the map.

Yeah I understand, but im wondering for someone who isnt going forged and doesnt want to deal with some of the inconsistances with the Suppiled Unichip EBC, if they were to use a different EBC would they be more consitant with their PSI

[atticus1398]

actually , the unichip ebc is 10 times more precise than my mbc.
its not really a spike, it hits 12psi between 3-4k rpms then drops to 10.5 all the way to redline. very consistent every time.

but to answer your question, i ran my mbc at 10psi with the unichip for 2 days, then i finally hooked up the unichip ebc. i trust the unichip ebc more than the mbc.

[FBI14]

yeah I didnt think a MBC would be that good, I was talking about another EBC to control the boost. Only because Ive heard of several occisaions where people using the Unichip EBC having some high spikes and inconsistences, and thought a Electronic Boost controller would help

[goku4658]

Yeah with FBI, I'm not forged and I don't want to be boosting that high

[UnNaturalinc]

yeah I didnt think a MBC would be that good, I was talking about another EBC to control the boost. Only because Ive heard of several occisaions where people using the Unichip EBC having some high spikes and inconsistences, and thought a Electronic Boost controller would help

People have had issues with the stock wastegate also. So you can't automatically blame the Unichip solenoid.

The Unichip has a built in electronic boost controller.... That's how the boost is controlled.

[atticus1398]

i know, i have a empty slot above my turbo timer in my gauge plate.
sooner or later ill get a profec b.

[poboxjosh]

I have had my unichip on for 4 months never any inconsistencies that i notice it always spikes to 12-13 then levels out. It was the best upgrade i have done. No more air fuel worries.

[FBI14]

People have had issues with the stock wastegate also. So you can't automatically blame the Unichip solenoid.

But it seems more than a few with the Unichip using the upped boost have had a few problems here and there...Hell even you have acknowldeged that the Unichip Boost sloenoid might be the casue.
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1584152&postcount=10



The Unichip has a built in electronic boost controller.... That's how the boost is controlled.

Yes I was aware of this, but it does not have to be installed for the Unichip to work and and therefore someone could use a different EBC if they were having problems.

Why is this like pulling teeth, Im not against this unit at all

[poboxjosh]

I personally have not had any problems with it I was wondering if there was a way to up the boost after the appropriate mods have been done.

[UnNaturalinc]

But it seems more than a few with the Unichip using the upped boost have had a few problems here and there...Hell even you have acknowldeged that the Unichip Boost sloenoid might be the casue.
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1584152&postcount=10


Yes I was aware of this, but it does not have to be installed for the Unichip to work and and therefore someone could use a different EBC if they were having problems.

Why is this like pulling teeth, Im not against this unit at all

Yes, I was just saying people have suggested that to be a problem.

You said "Only because Ive heard of several occisaions where people using the Unichip EBC having some high spikes and inconsistences, and thought a Electronic Boost controller would help". I was just clarifying the Unichip has an electronic boost controller....

[WillisW555]

I leave the b/c on, but I don't usually don't let it build up to 12 PSI of boost. I try to control the max boost with throttle. Sometimes I open it up though... just for fun. The EBC makes a huge difference.

Even without the EBC, the car is so much smoother and easier to drive.

[poboxjosh]

OK, so i switched out my BOV for a BPV (turbo xs) Now I'm spiking at almost 15 in 4th gear???

[atticus1398]

whoa! i thought mine was bad at 13!

[FBI14]

whoa! i thought mine was bad at 13!

In the install manul PDF it says on Map B for the high Boost it peaks to 10 with a 13PSI transitory spike

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1240120&postcount=2

[UnNaturalinc]

That manual should come with every Unichip system....

[atticus1398]

[QUOTE=FBI14]In the install manul PDF it says on Map B for the high Boost it peaks to 10 with a 13PSI transitory spike.

true, but i have an aftermarket smic and exhaust, so that raised my stock boost by 1.5 psi. so it didnt suprise me that with the unichip, it is also up 1.5psi.

map b just advances timing. im already flashed, so i leave mine on map a. maybe map b if i had race gas. i bet that would be insane.

Ben are you forged? I think with the unichip(proper a/fs), its not as bad on the internals as just upping the boost is.

[Kooldino]

What would it take to be an authorized Unichip tuner?

[noclue119]

What would it take to be an authorized Unichip tuner?

A clue.... *see my name*

[UnNaturalinc]

[QUOTE=FBI14]

Ben are you forged? I think with the unichip(proper a/fs), its not as bad on the internals as just upping the boost is.


I have stock internals and don't plan on changing much more. FMIC and some additional tuning and tweaks is all I will do to this engine. I'm not looking to blow it.


Yes, I think what you are trying to say is there is more to getting power out of a turbo engine than just upping the boost. Tuning is always key. Many people have found that out the hard way. I remember when people on this board use to say EMS's are a waste of money and to just get an FPR and boost controller. haha

[UnNaturalinc]

What would it take to be an authorized Unichip tuner?

http://unichip.us/

[Tito1]

I was just checking out the link from the first page to corksport.

My question is whether that is the same as the Unichip. It looked like there are some different features, or is it just there marketing???

[poboxjosh]

I was just checking out the link from the first page to corksport.

My question is whether that is the same as the Unichip. It looked like there are some different features, or is it just there marketing???


same thing. corksport sells UNIchip

[UnNaturalinc]

CorkSport helped produce it, they provided the car and tech for this particular unit.

To confirm, there is only one Unichip system for the MSP.


I still would like to explore the other capabilities of these systems.... I wondering how much power (or if any) could be seen by adjusting the VRIS (or whatever it's called on this engine) points. There's also a function for a dual stage rev limit I hear. Converting to MAP would be kind of cool also.

Another thing I'm looking into doing is running a Mac Mini.... Not really much use for Unichip-specific setups, but an interesting idea overall. :)

[goku4658]

To confirm, nobody has had any problems with the increased boost resulting from unichip installs (using the unichip included boost controller) on stock internals?

what are the boost settings for the 2 different maps?

[FBI14]

Not that Ive heard of

Stock boost and 10PSI

[TX Speed Demon]

How is this effecting Fuel Cut for you guys?

I hit it quite often and my MBC has never spiked over 10psi. It usually holds consitent at around 8. In cold weather I often hit fuel cut at as little as 2-3 psi or when first getting into boost. While I think my problem is my intake, I'm curious to hear from the unichip users.

Do this come with some sort of electronic FCD? Since fuel cut seems to be MAF related, I don't see how adjusting the air/fuel ratios would effect the problem.

[poboxjosh]

I hit fuel cut only after i put on my front mount and Turbo xs BOV. Ever since i took off the turbo bov and started recirculating I have not hit fuel cut. The unichip does a very good job I had never hit fuel cut before with the stock intercooler (unless temp was below freezing.) I have no idea how relevant that last info was.

[TX Speed Demon]

^^ Did you used to hit fuel cut often and after the unichip instal it doesn't happen so much anymore? And do you know if this is because the chip comes with an integrated FCD?

[Tito1]

same thing. corksport sells UNIchip

THanks...I just got a bit confused from their website.

I too wonder about the fuel cut??? How does unichip compensate??? Corksport also called it a "plug 'n play' but doesn't the chip require sodering to ECU???

Too much info make head go round

[goku4658]

Not that Ive heard of

Stock boost and 10PSI

haven't ppl reported spikes as high as 13 psi? thats what makes me nervous about the unit, otherwise i think its a great product...thats why i was so concerned about the increased boost and stock internals

[UnNaturalinc]

haven't ppl reported spikes as high as 13 psi? thats what makes me nervous about the unit, otherwise i think its a great product...thats why i was so concerned about the increased boost and stock internals

The boost maps are made to run between 10-12psi. 12psi is not a spike, it's programmed to do that.


I have been running a Unichip in my car daily for almost a year now. I keep it on the aggressive settings also.

[atticus1398]

mine hits 13-14 when cold, but only for a sec.

[poboxjosh]

THanks...I just got a bit confused from their website.

I too wonder about the fuel cut??? How does unichip compensate??? Corksport also called it a "plug 'n play' but doesn't the chip require sodering to ECU???

Too much info make head go round



No soldering. any clown with a 10mm socket,drill, and set of gloves. can install in a couple hours. Its real easy.

[Professor MSP]

The boost maps are made to run between 10-12psi. 12psi is not a spike, it's programmed to do that.

I have been running a Unichip in my car daily for almost a year now. I keep it on the aggressive settings also.

I concur, the Unichip is designed to have a transitory peak at approximately 13 PSI, and then roll off to 10 PSI. In my 5 months of experience with Unichip, I have only hit 13 PSI when my right foot is pinned to the floor, and then only in 3rd gear. Also, the peak boost happens so quickly that my eye often misses it. Luckily, my electronic boost gauge has a peak recall feature, which lets me recall the highest boost with the touch of a button. I find my eye and the peak recall do not necessarily coincide.

I too run map A with the boost switch ON. On a side note, I have found that I am averaging a little more than 28 mpg with this setting (in mixed driving), which is about 1–1.5 mpg better than I achieved running map A with the boost switch OFF. My theory is that with the boost switch ON, I do not plant my right foot to the floor as often as I do when it is OFF, resulting in less gasoline consumption per mile. With part throttle and the boost switch on, the car has ample thrust, more so than WOT with the boost switch OFF. Furthermore, I have never hit spark (or fuel) cut with the Unichip, but then I never did before the Unichip either.

The Unichip is the single best modification I have made to my car.

[goku4658]

some pretty strong testimonials in favor of the unichip...very tempting

[BradC]

I concur, the Unichip is designed to have a transitory peak at approximately 13 PSI, and then roll off to 10 PSI. In my 5 months of experience with Unichip, I have only hit 13 PSI when my right foot is pinned to the floor, and then only in 3rd gear. Also, the peak boost happens so quickly that my eye often misses it. Luckily, my electronic boost gauge has a peak recall feature, which lets me recall the highest boost with the touch of a button. I find my eye and the peak recall do not necessarily coincide.

I too run map A with the boost switch ON. On a side note, I have found that I am averaging a little more than 28 mpg with this setting (in mixed driving), which is about 1–1.5 mpg better than I achieved running map A with the boost switch OFF. My theory is that with the boost switch ON, I do not plant my right foot to the floor as often as I do when it is OFF, resulting in less gasoline consumption per mile. With part throttle and the boost switch on, the car has ample thrust, more so than WOT with the boost switch OFF. Furthermore, I have never hit spark (or fuel) cut with the Unichip, but then I never did before the Unichip either.

The Unichip is the single best modification I have made to my car.

Have any 1/4 mile times or dynos before/after or at all? You list of mods looks nice, just wondering about what that translates to at the road.

[FBI14]

Sonic Racer ran a 13.9 with just an intake and an exhaust with the unichip on upped boost

[atticus1398]

just wondering here, but what about our stock injectors? i read threads w/ people stating that they are maxed around 10psi.

[Professor MSP]

Have any 1/4 mile times or dynos before/after or at all? You list of mods looks nice, just wondering about what that translates to at the road.

Brad, here you go – http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=100130&highlight=Unichip+Dynamometer. This thread reports on my trip to a local tuner. I have yet to run at the track with the elevated boost setting.

[FBI14]

just wondering here, but what about our stock injectors? i read threads w/ people stating that they are maxed around 10psi.

I think 10 PSI is on the fence you can get away with it but they are pretty much maxed out

[Professor MSP]

just wondering here, but what about our stock injectors? i read threads w/ people stating that they are maxed around 10psi.

I cannot comment directly on that, but if you examine my reported AFR's in the thread http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=100130&highlight=Unichip+Dynamometer, you will see that they are seemingly in an ideal range, at least according to the local tuner and Tony at Unichip. This evidence suggests, that at least in my car, the injectors are working within their design limits. Also, don't forget that the peak boost of 13 PSI occurs only for a split second, and then only in the 4000–5000 RPM range, not at redline.

[UnNaturalinc]

I concur, the Unichip is designed to have a transitory peak at approximately 13 PSI, and then roll off to 10 PSI. In my 5 months of experience with Unichip, I have only hit 13 PSI when my right foot is pinned to the floor, and then only in 3rd gear. Also, the peak boost happens so quickly that my eye often misses it. Luckily, my electronic boost gauge has a peak recall feature, which lets me recall the highest boost with the touch of a button. I find my eye and the peak recall do not necessarily coincide.

I too run map A with the boost switch ON. On a side note, I have found that I am averaging a little more than 28 mpg with this setting (in mixed driving), which is about 1–1.5 mpg better than I achieved running map A with the boost switch OFF. My theory is that with the boost switch ON, I do not plant my right foot to the floor as often as I do when it is OFF, resulting in less gasoline consumption per mile. With part throttle and the boost switch on, the car has ample thrust, more so than WOT with the boost switch OFF. Furthermore, I have never hit spark (or fuel) cut with the Unichip, but then I never did before the Unichip either.

The Unichip is the single best modification I have made to my car.

You actually mean Unichip, right? haha... I have never seen anyone talk about it like that (that much support). Thank you for your post....

I keep forgetting to check my fuel economy again... (I dread finding out the amount I spend on fuel). On the original tune Unichip did, I gained around 5mpg. This was before they increased boost to the amount they did (it was only like 2psi over stock at that point).


Would you be interested in the other functions these systems can do, but are not currently offered? As I said before... .there's the possibility of converting to MAP sensor, dual stage rev limit, aux switch control....

[FBI14]

Ive got a question..I understand that the Unichip is designed with the 13 PSI transitory peak but why is it there and what if any benefits does it provide...if you send it back to get a different tune can it be removed ?

[UnNaturalinc]

Ive got a question..I understand that the Unichip is designed with the 13 PSI transitory peak but why is it there and what if any benefits does it provide...if you send it back to get a different tune can it be removed ?


You are asking the benefits of more boost? :confused:

more boost = more power

*it's 12 according to the information they gave me.

[FBI14]

I concur, the Unichip is designed to have a transitory peak at approximately 13 PSI, and then roll off to 10 PSI. In my 5 months of experience with Unichip, I have only hit 13 PSI when my right foot is pinned to the floor, and then only in 3rd gear. Also, the peak boost happens so quickly that my eye often misses it..

How would it make any serious difference in that scenario...



You are asking the benefits of more boost? :confused:

more boost = more power

*it's 12 according to the information they gave me.

not to mention transitory means short lived, so how can more boost for a relativley short amount of time make any difference in power...

[UnNaturalinc]

The boost increases to 12psi where it is safe to run that much. There is not enough fuel to run 12psi at all times. I don't have the exact graph break down of the map, but it was done like this to create power and doing so in a safe fashion..... All part of tuning.

[FBI14]

so 2-3 extra PSI for a few split seconds really makes a difference in power...Im not gonna say I know about tuning just didnt think that it would make such a difference that they thought it should be designed as such, thanks for the info

[BoOsTiN]

FBI14,
This email from Unichip should answer your question.


On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 10:45 am, Joshua Murray wrote:
>Hi Julio,
>The boost control can be modified by any authorized Unichip tuner. The
>midrange spike is a result of the small internal wastegate. We can tune it
>out but boost onset will be very soft and torque will suffer considerably.
>When increasing boost in the upper RPM range you will get high boost spikes
>in situations where you punch it at high RPMS. If you do a pull from idle up
>in say 3rd gear the boost is very stable but if you nail it at 5k RPM boost
>will overshoot by as much as 4-5 PSI. You can use an aftermarket controller
>like an AVC-R to do boost control. The only issue is you will hit the
>factory boost cut if you go much beyond our boost settings. The car really
>needs bigger fuel injectors or additional injectors to up the boost. Rob at
>Pineapple Racing is working on a Stg II kit for the MSP that will include
>injectors and make considerably more power. His phone number is
>503-546-8154. If you have any questions feel free to ask.
>

[UnNaturalinc]

so 2-3 extra PSI for a few split seconds really makes a difference in power...Im not gonna say I know about tuning just didnt think that it would make such a difference that they thought it should be designed as such, thanks for the info

Where did you get the split second number from?

I do not have a boost gauge myself, so I don't know how long it stays there for.



If you are questioning how Unichip did/does things, I'd suggest calling them direct to ask.....

[UnNaturalinc]

FBI14,
This email from Unichip should answer your question.

That information varies slightly from what they originally told me. I'm not sure who Joshua Murray is off the top of my head, I have not been out there in about 8 months or so. :-/


Rob and myself will hopefully have something shortly for bigger injectors. RC Engineering 440cc's are what we will be using.


Thanks for the info.

[FBI14]

Where did you get the split second number from?

.....

like I said Transitory means short and the way Professor MSP and others have described the peak it seems to be only for a few seconds.... Not actuall facts but its not like its holding 12-13PSI

[FBI14]

FBI14,
This email from Unichip should answer your question.


thanks that was some good info

[UnNaturalinc]

Not actuall facts but its not like its holding 12-13PSI

Based on what they told me, it should hold because it is not a spike. But the posted email directly from Unichip says otherwise....

As I said, what they told me varied from what was posted here today. I'd sure hate to be giving wrong information. Everything I've known about this product is based on first hand info and experience.

[atticus1398]

keep us updated on the injectors, Ben.

[goku4658]

this thread is great for unichip info...keep it up!

[Professor MSP]

How would it make any serious difference in that scenario...

I am sorry, but I am not entirely sure what you are asking. Would you please rephrase your question if I do not answer it clearly below?

If you are asking how a boost setup with peak pressure of 12-13 PSI that occurs for just a few seconds and bleeds to 10 PSI leads to better performance than boost that goes to 10 PSI and holds, then I believe that post #74 by BoOsTiN with the email pasted in from the Unichip technician provides a nice answer.

[Professor MSP]

You actually mean Unichip, right? haha... I have never seen anyone talk about it like that (that much support). Thank you for your post....

I keep forgetting to check my fuel economy again... (I dread finding out the amount I spend on fuel). On the original tune Unichip did, I gained around 5mpg. This was before they increased boost to the amount they did (it was only like 2psi over stock at that point).


Would you be interested in the other functions these systems can do, but are not currently offered? As I said before... .there's the possibility of converting to MAP sensor, dual stage rev limit, aux switch control....

You are welcome. I am not interested in the other such functions that Unichip can control. At present, I am very happy with my car, the exception being the tire roar and impact harshness of the RE040's.

[WillisW555]

Josh Murray helped me when I was going through some problems with my UniChip. It was frustrating, but he was very good.

The car runs real smooth now and with the boost switch on, it pulls hard.

I remember reading that we have a small wastegate, but has anyone considered a bigger wastegate to avoid the problem?

[jeffmsp]

our turbo uses an internal wastegate so i do not think you can just stick a bigger one in there.

[WillisW555]

our turbo uses an internal wastegate so i do not think you can just stick a bigger one in there.

Sorry, I'm turbo dumb :D

[goku4658]

Ok so has anyone gotten theirs custom tuned yet? Is there a list anywhere or some other way to find out if there's one nearby?

[FBI14]

www.unichip.us (http://www.unichip.us)

[goku4658]

www.unichip.us (http://www.unichip.us)

riiight but when i look for "tuners" the closest thing i can find is "dealers" and the closest one after i enter my country, state, and zip is strictly an online vendor

[BoOsTiN]

Just send them an email asking who's in your area.
The unichip techs are your friends.

[goku4658]

thanks!

[jaw307]

wow, I am floored by the quality info on this thread but I have a ?. what comes with this system? is it just switches to go from the different maps or does it have a computer interface like apex'i products?

[FBI14]

wow, I am floored by the quality info on this thread but I have a ?. what comes with this system? is it just switches to go from the different maps or does it have a comperter interface like apex'i products?

No just 3 switches

ECU Switch (Clear any CELs, Unlikely)
Boost Switch (Stock Boost or 10PSI)
Map Switch ( Timing Maps)

[jaw307]

No just 3 switches

ECU Switch (Clear any CELs, Unlikely)
Boost Switch (Stock Boost or 10PSI)
Map Switch ( Timing Maps)
I am on the site now looking for a dealer, I was going to do a mbc bc I am running very rich and down the road do like an afc. but after reading this it seems like it is all the upgreades I will ever need.

no matter where it is bought from the msp will have the same programs right?

[jaw307]

this is exciting bc my car is loosing so much power from running the wrong a/f at the wrong time.

[poboxjosh]

I am on the site now looking for a dealer, I was going to do a mbc bc I am running very rich and down the road do like an afc. but after reading this it seems like it is all the upgreades I will ever need.

no matter where it is bought from the msp will have the same programs right?
yeah, you really notice a huge difference no more bucking its such a smooth ride .

[UnNaturalinc]

no matter where it is bought from the msp will have the same programs right?


There are only two retail stores that sell this specific unit. It cannot be purchased from just any Unichip seller.

[TampaBlackMSP]

Anyone know of anywhere in Florida that could do the install? Sounds nice.

[UnNaturalinc]

Anyone know of anywhere in Florida that could do the install? Sounds nice.

Any 'car guy' can install these.... They come with detailed instructions.

plug 'n play suckah! :cool:

[TampaBlackMSP]

Sweet, thx!

[jaw307]

There are only two retail stores that sell this specific unit. It cannot be purchased from just any Unichip seller.
so I am probably going to have to get it through horsepowerfreak or corksport, right?
were are these ppl getting the unit for under 800 at?

[FBI14]

so I am probably going to have to get it through horsepowerfreak or corksport, right?
were are these ppl getting the unit for under 800 at?

There was a sale Corksport was having a while back and some may have got it cheaper from another member selling the unichip

[poboxjosh]

I think i paid 770 at corksport. they had a christmas sale.

[JDM Sam]

our turbo uses an internal wastegate so i do not think you can just stick a bigger one in there.

You can buy a better internal wastegate with stiffer spring. Still wont beat running an external unit.

[JDM Sam]

There are only two retail stores that sell this specific unit. It cannot be purchased from just any Unichip seller.
Funny thing I can get them...

[UnNaturalinc]

Funny thing I can get them...

Well yeah, anyone can get them. But the rights belong to Pineapple Racing on that specific unit. If a store is selling them, they're going through the same channel everyone else is. It's not an "off the shelf" Unichip product.

The companies currently offering them are companies that had direct knowledge and helped in creating the MSP system. = tech support.

[dale55]

Newbie needs help with the Unichip. I am wanting to add the Unichip and a freeflow exhaust to my 2003 MSP. I already have a cold air intake. Do I need to worry about the safety of these mods in terms of reliability? This car is my daily driver and I need it to last a LONG time!


Thanks
d.

[low_psi]

you will be fine. I'd spend the majority of my time at stock boost if I were you if you want the car to last forever.

[poboxjosh]

Newbie needs help with the Unichip. I am wanting to add the Unichip and a freeflow exhaust to my 2003 MSP. I already have a cold air intake. Do I need to worry about the safety of these mods in terms of reliability? This car is my daily driver and I need it to last a LONG time!


Thanks
d.


Yeah you should be fine. This is the best designed piggyback out there for our cars. It is programmed very well. I run all the time at full boost but if you want to take it easy just dont punch it.

[atticus1398]

i must say that i expected to break a rod by now. ive been spiking at 13psi for about 5 months now. and ive been driving hard and hitting the track. i am truly a unichip believer. need to dyno again, curious about my a/fs. also hoping Ben gets the injector package idea going (smoke)

[UnNaturalinc]

also hoping Ben gets the injector package idea going (smoke)

Me too! I want to install a FMIC!

Ben's final in school is today. After that, he'll have more time to work on car stuff.



it's creepy when people talk in 3rd person.

[low_psi]

i just wish I had the cashmoney for it now :(

[Tito1]

Why is the moderator deleting my posts.


This is total BS...I was not flaming anyone. I was just informing the other member that they shouldn't feel pressured to buy this unit RIGHT NOW to get this 'CLEARANCE PRICE'.

They must have been sold, and I wish I already had one. But I just don't get it. Are the Mods more concerned with(godown) to the Vendors than informing the members of this Forum.

[CorkSport]

My post was deleted also. I know that I was not concerned about any criticism of my post, nor do I recall flaming anyone.
I don't think anyone felt any pressure to buy anything.
I have a couple of unichip units to sell, if someone would like them great otherwise no big deal, there's always a customer somewhere.

Should I have posted in a different section?

[UnNaturalinc]

Why is the moderator deleting my posts.


This is total BS...I was not flaming anyone. I was just informing the other member that they shouldn't feel pressured to buy this unit RIGHT NOW to get this 'CLEARANCE PRICE'.

They must have been sold, and I wish I already had one. But I just don't get it. Are the Mods more concerned with(godown) to the Vendors than informing the members of this Forum.

Vendors pay to advertise here dude. That's what helps keep this board going. If you don't like a price of something, then don't buy it.... They were not pressuring anyone to buy anything, he said he had a couple on the shelf he wanted to move.

[CorkSport]

I love you Ben!!!

[Tito1]

I understand that the venders pay, and the moderateor iguess want to protect them (you). But doesn't that hurt the integrity the the forums and the vendors.

I wasn't flaming anyone either. In fact I had no problem with the 'deal'. I just want to point out that theses ren't the only two places to buy unichip. But by deleting the post we can't even look back.

So do the mods modify all the threads to their liking. I now question the information I pull from all these threads. They deleted my post b/c i was asking questions. Where re these forums going??

[jaw307]

less drama more car talk

[poboxjosh]

on another note my UNIchip let me down tonight. 179whp 179 tq 10 psi kinda

[mazdaowner123]

What other mods do you have? Those are some low numbers for 10psi. What type of dyno?

~brian

[mazdaowner123]

n/m on the mods, just read the first post again. was it on a mustang dyno?

[low_psi]

type of dyno definately needed.

[poboxjosh]

dyno jet.

[low_psi]

did you dyno it at stock boost? do you have a boost gauge/did they tap a pressure sensor into the intake manifold?

[poboxjosh]

did you dyno it at stock boost? do you have a boost gauge/did they tap a pressure sensor into the intake manifold?

i put up 160 at stock boost. and 179 at what i called 10 psi. It spiked to 11 but only held at around 7.5 on my boost gauge.

[apocman]

Just send them an email asking who's in your area.
The unichip techs are your friends.

sure their your friends for a price!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (laugh) (laugh) (laugh) (crazy)

[apocman]

our turbo uses an internal wastegate so i do not think you can just stick a bigger one in there.

you can get a that will hoild more boost, but what exactly that entials I do not know...

[low_psi]

i put up 160 at stock boost. and 179 at what i called 10 psi. It spiked to 11 but only held at around 7.5 on my boost gauge.

oh, well then those number make more sense, but still seem low. do you have the graphs for the 10si pull(s)? if you spiked from 11-7.5 i'd assume the power curve is a bit strange.

[jaw307]

i put up 160 at stock boost. and 179 at what i called 10 psi. It spiked to 11 but only held at around 7.5 on my boost gauge.
is unichip your only mod?

[FBI14]

is unichip your only mod?

This is was what he posted



FMIC, BOV, Corksport Catless, Corksport DP(on the way), Injen CAI. 10psi

[murph1379]

You are welcome. I am not interested in the other such functions that Unichip can control. At present, I am very happy with my car, the exception being the tire roar and impact harshness of the RE040's.

When those 140 treadwear RE040's wear out, get yourself a set of Kumho MX's. At stock size they're a bit taller and a bit plusher, but grip MUCH better, wear better, and still do ok in the wet. (oh yeah they cost about half as much as the RE040s) I think the road noise is about the same though.

I offer that advice mostly because I like what you've done with your car, so I assume we have similar taste in mods. These tires and the shifter boot are all I'll do until the warranty is up, and I'm very glad I've done both.

[Professor MSP]

When those 140 treadwear RE040's wear out, get yourself a set of Kumho MX's. At stock size they're a bit taller and a bit plusher, but grip MUCH better, wear better, and still do ok in the wet. (oh yeah they cost about half as much as the RE040s) I think the road noise is about the same though.

I offer that advice mostly because I like what you've done with your car, so I assume we have similar taste in mods. These tires and the shifter boot are all I'll do until the warranty is up, and I'm very glad I've done both.

Thanks for the suggestion Murph. Everything you said gets two thumbs up from me, save for the "road noise is about the same" remark. My wife's Maxima had the Kumho ECSTA Supra 712's, and while they improved the handling of the car over the OEM tires, they really howled as they wore down. I really want a tire that doesn't howl as much as the RE040's.

I have been to tirerack.com and the Avon Tech M500's have received strong praise and they seem to be a rather quiet tire. They are also priced attractively. I will have to read up some more on the Kumho MX's, however, given your endorsement.

[jaw307]

Unichip is on the way, I will let you know my thoughts as soon as it is installed.

[WillisW555]

I like my UniChip... haven't dynoed it yet, but the car is much smoother than it used to be.

[jaw307]

Unichip is on the way, I will let you know my thoughts as soon as it is installed.
LOVE IT. easy to install, under one and a half hour. and increased performance drastically and drivability. and I am now getting about 2 to 3 mpg better. no more hesitation at idle. the only problem I had was it reset my ecu and it had to relearn my one bov, but 2 days later its running great and I expected that.

[UnNaturalinc]

the only problem I had was it reset my ecu and it had to relearn my one bov, but 2 days later its running great and I expected that.

You should have disconnected the battery when installing the box. In that much time the ECU would have been reset... That's not a problem, that's just what happens when you disconnect the battery.

[jaw307]

You should have disconnected the battery when installing the box. In that much time the ECU would have been reset... That's not a problem, that's just what happens when you disconnect the battery.
Yeah I wasn't complaining, just mentioning the experience. the same thing will happen if I ever use the power switch that they give you and I reset the ecu. I must say I love it. next is for a different intercooler, stock just isn't cutting it.

not to change the topic but if anyone has good info on frontmount dimensions pm me please and thank you

[skilletrx]

to the guy pulling 179whp on 10psi... is it cuz u need to get the unichip re-tuned... due to all ur mods?

[poboxjosh]

uhh, yep

[FBI14]

FBI14,
This email from Unichip should answer your question.

Quote:
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=alt2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset">On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 10:45 am, Joshua Murray wrote:
>Hi Julio,
>The boost control can be modified by any authorized Unichip tuner. The
>midrange spike is a result of the small internal wastegate. We can tune it
>out but boost onset will be very soft and torque will suffer considerably.
>When increasing boost in the upper RPM range you will get high boost spikes
>in situations where you punch it at high RPMS. If you do a pull from idle up
>in say 3rd gear the boost is very stable but if you nail it at 5k RPM boost
>will overshoot by as much as 4-5 PSI. You can use an aftermarket controller
>like an AVC-R to do boost control.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Knowing this information now what would it take to retune the Unichip without the 13PSI "spike" without any negative results? Could you just use a upgraded wastegate with a stiffer spring and then have the unichip retuned without the spike?

[mazdaowner123]

Well, I think the boost contoller in the unichip just sucks. There's a reason it's only a $50 EBC. Get a profec-b spec II and problem solved. You can run it along with the unichip just fine.

~brian

[low_psi]

Well, I think the boost contoller in the unichip just sucks. There's a reason it's only a $50 EBC. Get a profec-b spec II and problem solved. You can run it along with the unichip just fine.

~brian

meh, i'm hoping I don't spike over 13psi once I get my UC in. we shall see.

[UnNaturalinc]

Well, I think the boost contoller in the unichip just sucks. There's a reason it's only a $50 EBC. Get a profec-b spec II and problem solved. You can run it along with the unichip just fine.



Where did you get that price from? The 'EBC' is built into the unit, it's not an add on box like a GReddy (or whoever). The only 'additional' part is the solenoid. Those range from $20-$120 in the aftermarket world.

But I have heard of a number of people running the GReddy Profec with the Unichip have do not have the high spiking issues. I think the GReddy is just a more advanced design that's made to keep boost level where you set it.

I'm very interested in trying one of these:
http://www.perrinperformance.com/Products/Universal/EBCS.htm

[mazdaowner123]

I got the price from when people were asking jack about a discount if they ordered it without the boost controller, and he said that would only make it a $50 difference.

~brian

[UnNaturalinc]

I got the price from when people were asking jack about a discount if they ordered it without the boost controller, and he said that would only make it a $50 difference.

~brian

So that's just the solenoid they are taking out (the blue and black piece)... All the boost control would still be there, just not used.

[WillisW555]

I guess it's probably because the other EBCs can adjust the gain... how fast it can build boost. Unichip said that they could tune out the spike, but then the throttle response would suffer.

[low_psi]

i just put in my UC and boost controller and on high boost, i'm holding 12psi... anyone care to help me out? no boost/vacuum leaks etc. maybe wastegate line is too long? i could shorten it by 4-5"... kinda stumped right now.

[poboxjosh]

i just put in my UC and boost controller and on high boost, i'm holding 12psi... anyone care to help me out? no boost/vacuum leaks etc. maybe wastegate line is too long? i could shorten it by 4-5"... kinda stumped right now.


what other mods?

[low_psi]

fmic, 3" downpipe to 60mm JIC, stock intake w/ k&n... think that's it power wise lol

[goku4658]

u nervous?

[nvmsp]

" Could you just use a upgraded wastegate with a stiffer spring and then have the unichip retuned without the spike?"


any answer on this question? about the stiffr sprimg w/o re-tuning.

[low_psi]

u nervous?

yes. 10psi is the max I want to run up top. I'm gonna call UC Monday and see if they'll send me another boost soleniod to test.

High boost will be run tonight w/ homebrew racegas and then no more until I figure out the problem.

[FBI14]

" Could you just use a upgraded wastegate with a stiffer spring and then have the unichip retuned without the spike?"


any answer on this question? about the stiffr sprimg w/o re-tuning.

I think other members have already replaced the wastegate spring, I believe Blkzoomzoom has and MPNick has done it to one or 2 of the vehciles he has worked on

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1043850&postcount=1

[UnNaturalinc]

i just put in my UC and boost controller and on high boost, i'm holding 12psi... anyone care to help me out? no boost/vacuum leaks etc. maybe wastegate line is too long? i could shorten it by 4-5"... kinda stumped right now.

What is the problem...? It just stays at 12?

[Yay-Boost]

What kind of boost gauge are you reading the 12 psi on?

[nvmsp]

[QUOTE=FBI14]I think other members have already replaced the wastegate spring, I believe Blkzoomzoom has and MPNick has done it to one or 2 of the vehciles he has worked on.


DOES he do it so the wastegate is lined up the way it should be to just bolt right back up ?

[FBI14]

[QUOTE=FBI14]I think other members have already replaced the wastegate spring, I believe Blkzoomzoom has and MPNick has done it to one or 2 of the vehciles he has worked on.


DOES he do it so the wastegate is lined up the way it should be to just bolt right back up ?

Im not sure youd have to ask him..but I would assume it would be

[low_psi]

What is the problem...? It just stays at 12?

yep, no spike, just holds 12-13psi. its read via an autometer gauge, which is accurate by ~.5psi. even if the gauge was reading off, i'd still have a spike.

full story here ben: http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=116528

any help is much appreciated. gonna call UC after lunch about testing another soleniod...

[UnNaturalinc]

yep, no spike, just holds 12-13psi. its read via an autometer gauge, which is accurate by ~.5psi. even if the gauge was reading off, i'd still have a spike.

full story here ben: http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=116528

any help is much appreciated. gonna call UC after lunch about testing another soleniod...

That accurate based on what they say? Or you've actually verified this specific gauge is accurate?

[low_psi]

Nah, accurate as to stock boost, boost after mods, boost w/o soleniod on; all in respect to my car. I read ~5-6psi on stock boost, which is gonna be less than the actual psi if the gauge is reading incorrectly(most ppl run 7-8psi w/ similar mods). So for the gauge to be reading more at a higher psi doesn't make sense.

Regardless, I should have a spike despite what psi I'm actually running so something isn't right. I get a spike w/ the soleniod off, I should get one with the soleniod on aswell.

[poboxjosh]

My unichip is for sale. 640 bucks plus other stuff.

[Delivery_Guy]

My unichip is for sale. 640 bucks plus other stuff.

Not that I have $640 right now, but what other stuff are you talking about?

[poboxjosh]

I have a parting out thread called msp parting out.