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spoolinmp3
11-27-2002, 07:29 PM
Ok I have tried GC coilovers on my car, was not happy with the rattling and feel. Then I tried Intrax's gave a nice drop but was alittle on the stiff side. The H&R's were horrindous and did not give a decent drop. Eibachs have the retarded front higher than the back and then there are the cheap ass drop zones and rice crap. I have found the light!!!!! I have been searching for some cool springs for our cars and found a manufacturer hear localy. They specialize in race car chassis building, suspension and make springs for our cars. They are made to the demanding industry standards like eibach ect. Well I finagled my way into tring out a set on my car and holy shit!!! These things are awesome!!! They lower the car 2 inches all around, handle like a dream and the best part ride like the stock MP3 springs. I am gonna post pics soon. I am working out a distributorship with the guy now and the pricing looks promising;)

macklum
11-27-2002, 07:49 PM
post details asap

Equinox
11-27-2002, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by spoolinmp3
Ok I have tried GC coilovers on my car, was not happy with the rattling and feel. Then I tried Intrax's gave a nice drop but was alittle on the stiff side. The H&R's were horrindous and did not give a decent drop. Eibachs have the retarded front higher than the back and then there are the cheap ass drop zones and rice crap. I have found the light!!!!! I have been searching for some cool springs for our cars and found a manufacturer hear localy. They specialize in race car chassis building, suspension and make springs for our cars. They are made to the demanding industry standards like eibach ect. Well I finagled my way into tring out a set on my car and holy shit!!! These things are awesome!!! They lower the car 2 inches all around, handle like a dream and the best part ride like the stock MP3 springs. I am gonna post pics soon. I am working out a distributorship with the guy now and the pricing looks promising;)

I've found all of those things true with each type of springs so um, yeah give me price and the springs now x.x

Kooldino
11-27-2002, 09:07 PM
So the way it works is that we have springs now, and you take them out and replace them with the springs your talking about?

Did it improve handling? If so, are you SURE??? If so, by how much?

Also, are they adjustable height?

Disco
11-27-2002, 10:38 PM
Can't wait to see some specs and pics !!! = D

Sir Nuke
11-27-2002, 10:47 PM
and last but not least....did you mount these springs on stock struts or aftermarket.....and if so....which struts are you using?

spoolinmp3
11-27-2002, 11:15 PM
So the way it works is that we have springs now, and you take them out and replace them with the springs your talking about?
These are regular aftermarket springs just like eibach ect. They are not height adjustable since they are springs not coilovers. They lower the car 2 inches all around and give a nice firm feel like the stock mp3 suspension however they are not harsh like the H&R's ect. If you already have aftermarket springs I would not reccomend changing them since....well you already have lowering springs!!

These are mounted on my stock mp3 struts. They greatly improve the cars handling due to the lower center of gravity and less roll. Do I have scientific raw data to back this up?....No I dont but they definetly handle better than stock. They are presicion wound and shot peened in and out for increased strength and durabilty. They are powder coated with a special trick epoxy powder coating in a blue that matches the electron blue on the mp3.
I spoke to the gentleman today after I finished installing them. I am under the impression that they are manufactured at his plant here locally. I will keep ya'll updated on this but definetly will sell these.
They will be roughly in the 199 price range.
And they are amazing. I just took a fellow MP3 owner for a ride that owns one with H&R springs and he was simply amazed by the supple ride and handling.

smp3000
11-27-2002, 11:17 PM
No offense to anyone elses opinion here but I really dig my GC's. The feel is great and I hear no noise at all. Better yet, I can adjust the height according to wheel size, whether, racing, and show's. :D

spoolinmp3
11-27-2002, 11:22 PM
No offense to anyone elses opinion here but I really dig my GC's. The feel is great and I hear no noise at all. Better yet, I can adjust the height according to wheel size, whether, racing, and show's.
You offended me sucka!(getsome)
LOL on a serious note smp3000 you haven't experienced any clanking problems? Did you do anything to aleviate this? My GC's were driving me mad. Sounded like my car was a real beater.
Off topic smp what does your screen name stand for? I am real curious:) By the way I also like your current avitar the best, she is adorable

smp3000
11-27-2002, 11:27 PM
Bahhaha! Thanks!!

Yes, I have a wierd clunk in the front right area, it just started this week, and I'm not sure what it is. I'll take a look at it this weekend. I've done some testing while driving and have almost completely ruled out spring, or strut. I think it may be the sway bar. But we'll see... I've had the GC's on for over 6 months.

My SN are my initials SMP.. The 3000 is just an added number, but was come up a few years back as my contact name for many things. It's also my website www.smp3000.net.

The Avatar is of my niece when she was 3!! She was going nutts one night so I snapped a shot of her in mid growl!! ahahha

;)

spoolinmp3
11-27-2002, 11:43 PM
Dude if I would have known I would have spoken to you about my new website............sweet work man, keep it up

smp3000
11-27-2002, 11:50 PM
Yet another thanks!

I kinda quite doing freelance stuff ever since I got a full time job-because of time issues. But I still do things here and there.

I can't wait to get my track time in. Then I can scan uin my slips and be the "unofficial fastest MP3" until you scan in your sli[ps or anyone else for that matter. I figure in order to contend you at least need slips to show for it. hehe (smash)

jaman
11-28-2002, 10:45 PM
Would these springs fit a P5?

spoolinmp3
11-28-2002, 10:49 PM
Yes they will fit a p5

spoolinmp3
11-28-2002, 11:16 PM
We are going to the import xpression show tommorow. We will have plenty of pics and pics of my car lowered with these springs. Pics should be posted up on Monday

Kooldino
11-29-2002, 01:16 AM
So spoolin, what would the install be like? Should I get a pro to do it? And again, do I have to remove any stock component to put these in?

Thanks.

BTW...PICS!

MP3skaterNC
11-29-2002, 01:39 AM
Im guessing it would be the same as any other spring install, which could be done by you with the right tools. Just take the old springs out, stick the new ones in. simple. only specialized tool you'd need is a spring compressor which is like 25 bucks from an auto supply store (pep boys, autozone, etc.)

low_psi
12-03-2002, 12:04 AM
i'm very interested in these, but i need to know something very important...will these blow my factory(non-mp3) struts? i will be autocrossing with these and i can't risk blowing struts.

its gonna be hard enough convincing my dad about letting me buy springs, i have to assure him these will not damage anything...

thanks!

spoolinmp3
12-03-2002, 03:04 AM
It will work with factory struts but keep in mind the spring rates are different than stock springs. This will put increased wear and tear on the car. If you want longevity on the struts you can buy upgraded tockico's ect that come on the mp3. The mp3 can utilize these springs on the stock struts without accelerated wear.
Just bear in mind when upgrading anything to performance the life span is shorter....ahh the price we pay to go fast and look good...lol

low_psi
12-04-2002, 01:47 AM
Originally posted by spoolinmp3
It will work with factory struts but keep in mind the spring rates are different than stock springs. This will put increased wear and tear on the car. If you want longevity on the struts you can buy upgraded tockico's ect that come on the mp3. The mp3 can utilize these springs on the stock struts without accelerated wear.
Just bear in mind when upgrading anything to performance the life span is shorter....ahh the price we pay to go fast and look good...lol

maybe i should have stated this earlier, but i will be removing the aftmkt springs in august and putting the stocks back in. i've been told by a reliable source that the struts won't blow if i autocross them once a month until then(and have them on all the time).

what's your take guys?

Pro5OnSpeed
12-04-2002, 03:01 AM
i was planing on autocrossing next year as well, and buying the Mazdaspeed adjustable shocks for a harder suspension. i know this is kinda off track a little bit, but should i replace the springs too then? and does anybody know how well the MS shocks are?

Minus
12-09-2002, 10:43 PM
are these the same springs that on your website spoolin'?

spoolinmp3
12-09-2002, 10:47 PM
Yes they are

Minus
12-10-2002, 12:28 AM
rad..
i will order them springs right after christmas hopefully. do they come with some decald or something like that?

DooMer_MP3
12-11-2002, 01:12 AM
Originally posted by spoolinmp3
It will work with factory struts but keep in mind the spring rates are different than stock springs. This will put increased wear and tear on the car. If you want longevity on the struts you can buy upgraded tockico's ect that come on the mp3. The mp3 can utilize these springs on the stock struts without accelerated wear.
Just bear in mind when upgrading anything to performance the life span is shorter....ahh the price we pay to go fast and look good...lol

Are you sure about this? I remember from my earlier readings that the MP3 struts would only handle about a 1.2-1.5" drop before getting worn excessively. I'd love to get these though. They look like and sound like EXACTLY what I want. I'll probably do this with some of my tax return :). Spool, you are awesome man. Nice price :D.

Chris

G_MAN75
12-11-2002, 12:35 PM
You guys who are applying coilovers without aftermarket shocks are in for a treat. They will eat you factory shocks for breakfast.
:confused:

G_MAN75
12-11-2002, 12:52 PM
I'm glad you got the best springs and stuff but. When i got to the website spoolin-turbo they say nothing about those springs.
So stop teasn and tell me something a can use.

DooMer_MP3
12-11-2002, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by G_MAN75
You guys who are applying coilovers without aftermarket shocks are in for a treat. They will eat you factory shocks for breakfast.
:confused:

Its easier for us with the MP3 because of the Tockico struts that came with the car. They can handle at least a 1.5" drop without adding wear and tear. I'm still curious if they can handle 2.0".

Also, SPOOLIN: Did you have to roll the fenders out or anything with that? I'm assuming you're running 17" rims from the picture and stock-sized tires (205/45/17)... Thanks!


Originally posted by G_MAN75
I'm glad you got the best springs and stuff but. When i got to the website spoolin-turbo they say nothing about those springs.
So stop teasn and tell me something a can use.

Eh? Check again. They're right off of the main menu under "Suspension". They are the ones for $199.

Chris

spoolinmp3
12-11-2002, 01:44 PM
I'm glad you got the best springs and stuff but. When i got to the website spoolin-turbo they say nothing about those springs.

Here it is they are in the suspension category

http://spool-turbo.com/sp08.html




You guys who are applying coilovers without aftermarket shocks are in for a treat. They will eat you factory shocks for breakfast.

Yes I agree with this, but they will start accelerating wear anything past 2 inches. So if you drive around with a 3 inch drop expect to change your suspension out real soon.


Also, SPOOLIN: Did you have to roll the fenders out or anything with that? I'm assuming you're running 17" rims from the picture and stock-sized tires (205/45/17)... Thanks!

Ok these springs do not lower the car by that much. You still can park your car without scraping parking seperators. You will not scrape your wheel wells even with 6 hefty adults in the car (we already tried this). You can run bigger wheels like 18's with these springs (we already tried). I run 17 inch rota's on my car. You do not have to roll any fenders. and they will not extremely accelerate wear on your suspension. The ride is not bumpy unless you go down a real bumpy road...lol.

If you guys have any other questions let me know:)

DooMer_MP3
12-11-2002, 04:10 PM
Excellent. Well, I'll be buying these in the coming months. I too faced the debate between the GCs and their noises, but lowest drop, H&R and Eibachs and their harldy noticeable drops on the MP3. This seems like the best option, and it just so happens to be the cheapest! Yay! Thanks spoolin!

Chris

Kooldino
12-11-2002, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by spoolinmp3
It will work with factory struts but keep in mind the spring rates are different than stock springs. This will put increased wear and tear on the car. If you want longevity on the struts you can buy upgraded tockico's ect that come on the mp3. The mp3 can utilize these springs on the stock struts without accelerated wear.
Just bear in mind when upgrading anything to performance the life span is shorter....ahh the price we pay to go fast and look good...lol


Will they wear a stock mp3 suspension any more than normal? If so, by how much?

Equinox
12-12-2002, 06:43 AM
Originally posted by Kooldino



Will they wear a stock mp3 suspension any more than normal? If so, by how much?

Unless you autocross a lot, probably wont wear anymore noticeable than stock if so, I'd say they'd shorten the life span by like, 5 months or something like that, it's just an estimation tho. You MP3 guys really shouldn't worry about your struts, now us MP5 guys need to worry a little, it will wear a little faster, but give me a break, not any faster than an cold air intake wears your engine. Just think about all those people with coilovers with 2.5" - 4" drops, you don't hear anyone worrying about getting new struts when they buy em. 2.0" ain't gonna kill you. It's not like you'll break em in the next 4 months or anything.

Kooldino
12-12-2002, 10:47 AM
Ummm...how does a cold air wear your engine???

DooMer_MP3
12-12-2002, 11:23 AM
I think he's just making a point for us MP3 owners. It pretty much doesn't, and he's saying these springs will pretty much not shorten the lifespan :D. Come on man, read into it! :).

Chris

spoolinmp3
12-12-2002, 01:55 PM
Equinox is right, I do not have any indepth scientific data that shows suspension wear. But it will not blow out the suspension like in a year or something.

Equinox
12-12-2002, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by Kooldino
Ummm...how does a cold air wear your engine???

I guarantee your CAI doesn't filter as well as stock - that's the whole point of a CAI. So it lets a little bit through, not much tho. Also the main reason a CAI would shorten engine life span, if because once you get a CAI, you drive the car harder, haha.

Rider69
12-12-2002, 11:30 PM
Originally posted by Equinox
I guarantee your CAI doesn't filter as well as stock

I beg to differ. As long as you are using a K&N filter on the end of your CAI, you are most likely getting as good or better filtration along with the addition airflow. For some interesting reading on air filters, go here:
http://knfilters.com/facts.htm

Equinox
12-13-2002, 07:39 AM
Originally posted by Rider69


I beg to differ. As long as you are using a K&N filter on the end of your CAI, you are most likely getting as good or better filtration along with the addition airflow. For some interesting reading on air filters, go here:
http://knfilters.com/facts.htm


I don't agree with you, but really it's not the point hehe. Please no more posts on teh CAI thing =p

Rider69
12-13-2002, 03:03 PM
yeah, sorry for the posts in the springs thread.:(

DooMer_MP3
12-13-2002, 03:33 PM
So when I get these suckers and install/have them installed, and I go to get an alignment, how does that work exactly? Are there alignment specs for different types of cars that alignment shops follow? If so, I can only imagine the nightmare that will involve due to the MP3 being so rare. It was hard enough getting touchup paint for the MP3 :), now camber, castor settings etc!? Or am I over-worrying?.

Chris

Equinox
12-14-2002, 08:55 PM
go to any suspension shop, ask for an alignment, you may want to mention you just lowered the car but it probably wont matter, and yer done. They'll have all the specs. An alignment most likely wont correct all the camber, but some of it you want, part of good handling, tho we have already a lot of rear camber as it is, the wheels are angled out a tad.